Solo Dragonfly as Willow(no walls/panflute)

[SilentBalloon]

 

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Additionally, after hiding inside the shell for around 5 seconds, all attackers will lose interest in the player and stop their attacks. 

https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Snurtle_Shell_Armor

But only mobs with a distance of less than 20 are affected.

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Lavae will attack the players, and if the last Lavae dies to a player, the Dragonfly will become enraged. 

https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Dragonfly

 

 

[MondayNight]

Yep, all you need is... a/some Snurtle Armor(s), 2 Bone Armors, some Thule Crowns, Glommer Goop for healing, some Bernies for distracting Shadows... alright. I suppose is another convoluted way of doing DF, like that chap from a long time ago going as Wolf vs DF day 2 with nothing beside Hambat and some obscure code-side knowledge regarding the last standing Larvae that doesn't trigger enragement from Moma Fly if done at X very-tight time interval. Yep. This and the Wigfrid boon exploit vs Toad solo triangle baiting. Mmmmhm. It's... a thing I guess

[ShadowDuelist]

Indeed, with so much gear most characters can do this without walls, I'm sure something like this could be done much earlier in the game as Willow though.

As a side note, I think Willow has a lot of untapped potential that has not been used yet, specially in early stages of the game:

- Having 4 Bernies, a sewing kit, and ditching your 2 shadows through a wormhole is indeed a valid way for Willow to get a strong companion which works great against bosses. I've tested this VS BEE QUEEN and he did help by luring the grumbles with his taunt, mostly during the first 2 phases of the fight. Bernie can also add a decent DPS against DFLY. I haven't tested much but I'm sure he has other uses too.

- Willow's fire immunity is an underrated perk, its not just good for cooking in the lava ponds, with the right timing you can set enemies on fire and still get the drop, while they freak out and don't attack you or attack you much less. You can also throw ropes or other long burning time items and use them to get extra DPS around you, paired with a flingo or water baloons to put it out before it completely burns, you can deal a ton of damage, unharmed.

[Toroic]

7 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said:

Indeed, with so much gear most characters can do this without walls, I'm sure something like this could be done much earlier in the game as Willow though.

As a side note, I think Willow has a lot of untapped potential that has not been used yet, specially in early stages of the game:

- Having 4 Bernies, a sewing kit, and ditching your 2 shadows through a wormhole is indeed a valid way for Willow to get a strong companion which works great against bosses. I've tested this VS BEE QUEEN and he did help by luring the grumbles with his taunt, mostly during the first 2 phases of the fight. Bernie can also add a decent DPS against DFLY. I haven't tested much but I'm sure he has other uses too.

- Willow's fire immunity is an underrated perk, its not just good for cooking in the lava ponds, with the right timing you can set enemies on fire and still get the drop, while they freak out and don't attack you or attack you much less. You can also throw ropes or other long burning time items and use them to get extra DPS around you, paired with a flingo or water baloons to put it out before it completely burns, you can deal a ton of damage, unharmed.

People (maybe even you) have been saying this for years and even after years I don’t think the cost/benefit works out.

Mobs tend to run in crazy patterns when set on fire (worse for kiting)  and for people who don’t use healthbar mods you’re risking loot for dps against trivial mobs.
 

I don’t think Willow’s fire immunity is underrated at all, I think it’s weak and rated correctly.

[MondayNight]

11 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said:

Indeed, with so much gear most characters can do this without walls, I'm sure something like this could be done much earlier in the game as Willow though.

As a side note, I think Willow has a lot of untapped potential that has not been used yet, specially in early stages of the game:

- Having 4 Bernies, a sewing kit, and ditching your 2 shadows through a wormhole is indeed a valid way for Willow to get a strong companion which works great against bosses. I've tested this VS BEE QUEEN and he did help by luring the grumbles with his taunt, mostly during the first 2 phases of the fight. Bernie can also add a decent DPS against DFLY. I haven't tested much but I'm sure he has other uses too.

- Willow's fire immunity is an underrated perk, its not just good for cooking in the lava ponds, with the right timing you can set enemies on fire and still get the drop, while they freak out and don't attack you or attack you much less. You can also throw ropes or other long burning time items and use them to get extra DPS around you, paired with a flingo or water baloons to put it out before it completely burns, you can deal a ton of damage, unharmed.

Yeah, what you write regarding BQ is a valid way of going at it in every stage of the game.

 

But what OP shows is something you might wanna consider in early game when one doesn't have many resources - aka a no walls vs DF method - yet done very late-game when OP already has FW gear. By that time (multiple FW take-downs) most long-running worlds of dedicated players have all space at DF arena full of Cobblestones and Lava Ponds encased in Thule and/or Moonrock Walls, even decorated with statues and the like for good measure of aesthetic sense. Sure you can throw for fun that Willow-or-whatever method of hiding into Shell because Shadows'n'stuff, yet is a very niche thing to do imo and not really efficient all-in-all.

There are a lot of convoluted ways of taking down bosses with character exploits or adjacent, still you won't see them used often because are too risky (for player or loot), too time-limited or too timed to other mob-mechanics that make them very tricky to use and ultimately inefficient.

[ShadowDuelist]

My personal tests as Willow were Vs bee queen, Vs dragonfly, and Vs smaller mobs I've applied fire to , like clockworks and spider queens. It worked pretty well, but I did know their health which is not something "legit".

Without knowing their HP which is the "real deal" then yeah I'm not sure if the timings can be learned, I'd have to try more and see, I guess.

[Toroic]

16 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said:

My personal tests as Willow were Vs bee queen, Vs dragonfly, and Vs smaller mobs I've applied fire to , like clockworks and spider queens. It worked pretty well, but I did know their health which is not something "legit".

Without knowing their HP which is the "real deal" then yeah I'm not sure if the timings can be learned, I'd have to try more and see, I guess.

To be clear, I encourage your curiosity and optimism but the things that made Willow quite powerful relative to other survivors in single player are fire farms and inventory burning.

Neither of those techniques work in DST and no new mechanics have been discovered that will replace them.

That isn’t to say Willow isn’t both fun and viable because she is, but I haven’t seen Willow specific techniques be better than the techniques every survivor can use.

[ShadowDuelist]

1 hour ago, Toros said:

To be clear, I encourage your curiosity and optimism but the things that made Willow quite powerful relative to other survivors in single player are fire farms and inventory burning.

Neither of those techniques work in DST and no new mechanics have been discovered that will replace them.

That isn’t to say Willow isn’t both fun and viable because she is, but I haven’t seen Willow specific techniques be better than the techniques every survivor can use.

But what I mean is, I believe she could have some advanced specific uses nobody is giving her given the low attention she has. 

For one The "fire sanity farm" is not very used and it still works: If you drop rope, one by one not in stacks, to your feet, up to 20 or more, and burn them for less than 30 seconds, you gain a massive amount of sanity nearly instantly. You can put them out before 30 seconds (when they'd turn to ashes)  with a water baloon, or a second of turning on a Flingo.
It's a good and cheap way to get sane again at the base nearly for free, given that any base will eventually get at least one flingo, and the ropes are not consumed: go to your rope on the ground, light it on fire, count to 25, turn on flingo, puts out the fire, turn off flingo, move on. Rope remains there to be used any time again.

The individual rope stacking is a similar method used on DST fire farms. Even though anyone can use these, Willow could "potentially" give them more uses, given that she is not damaged by fire.

Here are some burning rope stats explained by @KoreanWaffles some time ago:

Rope Burn Time = 30 seconds
Burn Damage = 5 hp per second
Max Burn Damage = 120 hp per second
Rope x24 Potential Burn Damage after just 25 seconds = 3000hp

Here's a DST fire farm example with rope stacking:

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