Shipping System & Storage Bins - Sweep Only

[Hikahi]

When 'sweep only' is checked, sweepers should still be able to load the bin with anything permitted in the bin. I mean, they are called **SWEEPERS** after all.

Alternately, there needs to be a new setting that denies dupe access on regular/smart storage bins while still allowing sweepers to load them. Even if it's restricted to smart storage bins, that would be fine, it just needs to be an option somehow.

 

With the way it seems to work right now, I can put a sweeper in place, give it a bin, and dupes will still run in and manually load crap into the bin.

EG: If I have algae machines making algae, and a sweeper stuffing the algae into bins, I don't want the dupes bringing in newly mined, possibly germy algae, but they will still do it.

It's extremely frustrating when I want to automate something, but the dupes jump to do the work anyway, especially when I'm running at a high number of pending jobs and it's taking dupes weeks to finish building things because there's so much to do.

 

 

[Sasza22]

People oftn restrict dupe access to certain parts of the base so it`s fully automated. You could try doing that.

Auto sweepers will move stuff based on priority but unlike dupes they can`t move. Try setting stuff you want auto loaded on priority 2 (receptacle on 1). Dupes won`t touch that unless they have no other jobs while aoutmation will take care of it just fine.

[AndreyKl]

There are issues with storage system in general.

Example 1: I want to keep some materials 'at hand' in some locations to prevent dupes from moving tiny amount around.

There is a problem - if I have main storage that is not full (Storage A) with high priority and storage in destination (Storage B) with low priority, B will never get resources. If I do it in reverse dupes will take tiny amounts from storage B then move same tiny amounts from storage A to storage B, thus defeating whole purpose. The only way it works so far: assign high priority to B and once full, assign same priority as to A, but that's far from automatic.

Example 2: Auto-Sweeping. I want 'local' storages with low priority for local sweeping to prevent dupes from running too much and hauling small amounts.

Same situation. If sweeping storage (A) is low priority and main storage (B) is high priority. Dupes will haul their tiny loads directly to main storage that is far away. If A has high priority, they will start hauling resources from B. Again, solution is to set equal priorities (assuming you don't have other storages) and rise B's priority when necessary which isn't automatable (and means that all locations have identical sweep priority).

Example 3: Keeping supplies for production

When automating a receipt you have to keep separate resources in separate storages. It is not so bad for the likes of ceramics - just a storage for coal, storage for clay, storage for output and a sweeper to move all that to/from kiln. But  for machines with bigger variety of inputs and outputs that's a more pressing issue.

Example 4: I had a lot of troubles keeping igneous rock made by volcanoe, and 300C regolith from regular storages and troubles keeping colled material from 'hot' storages.

Auto-sweepers, locked doors and conveyors allow some workarounds, but sometimes you can't install automation in vacuum (or near volcanoes, but there are more options) since they need cooling and providing cooling eats up a lot of operational space or you can't lock doors since there are machines that require manual access.