need help with simple mass cooling

[nameorgame]

i need help with cooling air around a gold volcano, the gas around it is phosphorus and it is at 400+*C is there a simple or complicated way to cool that down. im currently trying something but i dont think it will work...

if any one need the yam file to test things i will provide it  

[impyre]

1. I'd wait until a dormant period, then dig a channel under it to some place unused atm,
2. have a automated door installed,
3. remove the wall
4. get your dupes out
5. open the door to vent the room as much as possible
6. cool what's left (that will be easier) until it can be pumped out
7. pump in some hydrogen
8. install some high-mass high-specific-heat tiles to act like thermal buffers

That should help with cooling. Although I'm sure there are other ways, and maybe even better ways.

Also, consider using liquid pipes for cooling after you get temperatures to a more manageable level, this will carry away much more heat.

[Xadhoom]

i personally never bother to cool a volcano, whenever i use them i take the heat to make steam for a steam generator. so if you have excess water id suggest doing that. petroleum is a decent liquid to transfer the heat to somewhere else if you need to.

and if you have extreme heat, make sure to use materials with high melting point, such as obsidian, wolfram and tungsten.

[nameorgame]

18 minutes ago, impyre said:

1. I'd wait until a dormant period, then dig a channel under it to some place unused atm,
2. have a automated door installed,
3. remove the wall
4. get your dupes out
5. open the door to vent the room as much as possible
6. cool what's left (that will be easier) until it can be pumped out
7. pump in some hydrogen
8. install some high-mass high-specific-heat tiles to act like thermal buffers

That should help with cooling. Although I'm sure there are other ways, and maybe even better ways.

Also, consider using liquid pipes for cooling after you get temperatures to a more manageable level, this will carry away much more heat.

1. it's dormant for another 38.8 cycles
2. will do. should it be made of iron or steel though ?
3. witch wall? top, bottom, left, right? 
4. i will when i can effectively control the heat
5.  the automated door that i'm going to build? 
6. i built what i had planed already, and its around 100-200*C so i can now pump it out, 
7. will do.
8.  "high-mass high-specific-heat tiles" would insulated granite tiles work, or gold metal tiles? and should i have use Diamond shift plates? 

@impyre

7 minutes ago, Xadhoom said:

i personally never bother to cool a volcano, whenever i use them i take the heat to make steam for a steam generator. so if you have excess water id suggest doing that. petroleum is a decent liquid to transfer the heat to somewhere else if you need to.

and if you have extreme heat, make sure to use materials with high melting point, such as obsidian, wolfram and tungsten.

i would use the heat to make steam for the steam genny but i dont have enough water to spare at the moment. the moment i can find out how to make huge amount of polluted and power using the natural gas gennies and keep them cool, then i will have water to spare. 

also, could i use the petroleum that i heat up and input it to a polymer press to delete that heat? or will it heat the polymer press and the  carbon and steam  that come out of it. 

and i didnt know that obsidian had a high melting point, i hardly use it but now i'll try to use it more now that i know that. thank you @Xadhoom

[impyre]

@nameorgame

1. that's plenty
2. doesn't matter
3. since you have other stuff on the other three sides, I'd guess bottom would be easiest
4. it's going to flood with hot gas briefly after you break the insulated tiles and before you construct the door, you have to be fast and get them out asap or you risk death. best to do in the morning right after an autosave
5. yep
6. if you can already pump it out step 4 is much easier since there's less heat
7. ...
8. diamond is best but not strictly necessary. I'd probably use refined iron honestly. It's plentiful, easy to make, and does almost as good a job. The specific heat of diamond is less than 20% better than refined iron, and the time spent acquiring it means that for every one of diamond you could probably easily build two of iron (which completely negates the thermal conductivity advantage of diamond). The two biggest reasons to use diamond is that you don't have to process it and the thermal conductivity is much higher, but specific heat is more important in this case

EDIT: ***Although if you have the temp that low, it honestly may be easier to condense it first and let it flood out as a liquid rather than a gas.

[Xadhoom]

3 hours ago, nameorgame said:

1. also, could i use the petroleum that i heat up and input it to a polymer press to delete that heat? or will it heat the polymer press and the  carbon and steam  that come out of it. 
   
   and i didnt know that obsidian had a high melting point, i hardly use it but now i'll try to use it more now that i know that. thank you @Xadhoom

that should work, i do that with petroleum i use to cool my metal refinery, i use a loop that only lets the petroleum out once its above 300 degrees then it goes to the polymer presses.

[Kabrute]

I would break open 1 single insul tile up top and vent out everything thats not phosphorous, retile, then poor pwater over the top.  Water converts to steam around 106c phosphour will condense around 277.5c the insulated tiles will act as a thermal baffle swapping temps enough to transform 5k of pwater into steam at a time and condense 5kg of phosphour at a time, and since you are exploiting condesation temps of materials it will transfer the energy faster than metal tiles would and do so in a controlled fashion, ie only when water is on the till will it steam off

[nameorgame]

@Kabrute @Xadhoom @impyre

thanks for your help i managed to cool it down. and in the next 100 cycles i will be able to get a cool loop in there to help when its idle. but if i may ask another thing of you's. how can i get mobs? the only way i know of is by murdering dups but that dont sit right with me. i will if i have to if there is no other way. and if i do kill the dup and bury them do their bodies go away if not how can i make them go away with out cheating if possable. 

 

 

[impyre]

Best thing to do is make your dupes use an outhouse that is constructed in a special room. Once the outhouse is full you can disable it, morbs will spawn in there every so often. More toilets = more morbs.

[Neotuck]

I don't think dead dupes spawn Morbs anymore

Full outhouses is the only way

[Kabrute]

"disable" doesn't work you have to use doors to block off dupe permission and use a doorfloor to reset the outhouse ever 1200 seconds

[Neotuck]

1 hour ago, Kabrute said:

"disable" doesn't work you have to use doors to block off dupe permission and use a doorfloor to reset the outhouse ever 1000 seconds (900 minimum for a morb to spawn afaik)

actually it's exactly 1200s