insulated pipe insulation

[Craigjw]

For laying insulated pipes for the glass forge, when using igneous rock, what is the best way to insulate the insulated pipes.  Should I be tiling over them with insulated tiles or leaving them exposed to air, assuming both the air and insulated tiles are at 30c.  Which is the best way to keep the liquid glass from freezing and breaking pipes?

I would use Ceramic, however, making clay is a major bottleneck.

[Neotuck]

depends how far are you transporting the liquid glass?

personally I keep a pool of water and wheezeworts right next to the forge, only need 3 ceramic pipes total

[Craigjw]

The distance is probably way too far.

[Neotuck]

44 minutes ago, Craigjw said:

The distance is probably way too far.

might have to rework your design then, have your forge and "glass cooling" area as close as possible 

[Craigjw]

I was very much thinking that myself, however it's still a valid question, as to which is the better insulator of insulated pipes, air or insulated tiles.

Also, does liquid on top of the tiles effect the insulation relative to the pipes?

[Neotuck]

Just now, Craigjw said:

I was very much thinking that myself, however it's still a valid question, as to which is the better insulator of insulated pipes, air or insulated tiles.

insulated tiles helps with insulation

vacuum works better if you can pump all the air out

Best option is to use radiant pipes with a vacuum, it will take some damage at first but it won't take long for the glass to heat the pipes up and the vacuum will keep the pipes from cooling back down.  Once the pipes are hot enough they shouldn't ever take damage again

5 minutes ago, Craigjw said:

Also, does liquid on top of the tiles effect the insulation relative to the pipes?

depends on the temperature difference between the liquids and the tiles.  The smaller the difference the slower the temperature transfers 

[Craigjw]

I've been using insulated tiles, however, after about 60 tiles the pipes break...  I'm dripping the glass into my gold volcano, however, I could have placed the glass forge a lot closer.

[DaveSatx]

1 hour ago, Craigjw said:

I was very much thinking that myself, however it's still a valid question, as to which is the better insulator of insulated pipes, air or insulated tiles.

Also, does liquid on top of the tiles effect the insulation relative to the pipes?

This is my understanding based on the numbers listed in the game.
 

Spoiler

 

Between any two objects the lowest thermal conductivity is used.

(I use F not C so some numbers may look odd but the info stands)

for insulated pipes:

Sandstone is 0.050
Sedimentary, Obsidian, Igneous: 0.035
Granite: 0.059
Ceramic: 0.011

What you put the pipes into appears to not  matter at all from the perspective of breaking them, since its the pipes themselves that cool the glass down.

Once your pipes heat up it does matter as they will leak heat energy the same way.

. chlorine gas transfers at 0.005, Insulated Igneous at 0.011 and ceramic at 0.003

energy transfer also matters. it takes
  chlorine 0.267D to warm up 1F/g
 Igneous  0.556D to warm up 1F/g
 Ceramic 0.467D to warm up 1F/g

So given that the chlorine might be less than max pressure, i'll math as if it is

1000Kg of chlorine transfers at 0.005 so it steals very little glass per tick as the glass moves and warms up fastest so it reaches equilibrium (and stops stealing) fastest.

Ceramic Insulated tiles takes longer (0.003) to transfer so it steals less per tick as the glass moves and warms up only slightly taking longer to reach equilibrium (800k vs 1000k and still)

igneous Insulated tiles transfer at the fastest rate: 0.011 so it steals the most per tick and takes the longest to reach equilibrium.

 

 TLDR:  Use vacuum, ceramic or use anything but granite or sandstone insulated pipes in gas (the other gases are only slightly worse than chlorine

I think of it as the slower the glass cools and the faster the medium reaches equilibrium the better (less breaks)