Kasuha Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If you decide to use Wheezeworts, do the math first. They can overheat and stop easily even with conveyor (the steam is at 110 C, Worts stop working at 90). Attempts at my geyser failed utterly with Wheezeworts, even though they were separated in hydrogen atmosphere. Though I agree that 20 kg/s production during eruption is a bit extreme. 47 minutes ago, TheExceed said: @kasuha Would using metal tiles and conductive wire bridges from tungsten be better then? The solution I have is good enough. There's no need to have it better if it does the job. I guess that when using metal tiles, I would not need the embedded bridges. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, TheExceed said: Base value? Like did I edit them? Nah. I have two of them that high. Base value is the one that it lists in the info pane. Adjusted is after you calculate uptime duration percentages for both Eruption and Activeity, and multiply it all together. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Kasuha said: If you decide to use Wheezeworts, do the math first. They can overheat and stop easily even with conveyor (the steam is at 110 C, Worts stop working at 90). Attempts at my geyser failed utterly with Wheezeworts, even though they were separated in hydrogen atmosphere. Though I agree that 20 kg/s production during eruption is a bit extreme. The solution I have is good enough. There's no need to have it better if it does the job. I guess that when using metal tiles, I would not need the embedded bridges. My issue is that mine has a long uptime.. and yours doesn't cool it enough during it's active time to be used for much of anything. Just now, PhailRaptor said: Base value is the one that it lists in the info pane. Adjusted is after you calculate uptime duration percentages for both Eruption and Activeity, and multiply it all together. Then yes, base value is 4.7kg/s Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kasuha said: The solution I have is good enough. There's no need to have it better if it does the job. I guess that when using metal tiles, I would not need the embedded bridges. doesn't that require a slush geyser? Does @TheExceed have one on his map? Also a CO2 geyser can do it as well Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: doesn't that require a slush geyser? Does @TheExceed have one on his map? Also a CO2 geyser can do it as well I do not. 5 cool steam, 3 NG, 1 chlorine 1 ph2o (84F) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, TheExceed said: I do not. 5 cool steam, 3 NG, 1 chlorine 1 ph2o (84F) perhaps a nearby AETN? they work better than wheezewarts wait what is the temp of the ph2o? you might be able to use that for coolant Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 I have 3 right next to eachother. Two are currently being used for oxygen systems. I would the third one but it's fairly far away from the bigger geyser. @Neotuck Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Neotuck said: doesn't that require a slush geyser? Does @TheExceed have one on his map? Also a CO2 geyser can do it as well Technically no. I use slush because I have it but I believe feeding it polluted water from another source at constant temperature - even 40 C - would be fine. It would just be hotter. All you need is to keep it cold enough to condense the steam. 40 C is cold enough. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Kasuha said: Technically no. I use slush because I have it but I believe feeding it polluted water from another source at constant temperature - even 40 C - would be fine. It would just be hotter. All you need is to keep it cold enough to condense the steam. 40 C is cold enough. Then how should I go about cooling the liquid after its condensed efficiently? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheExceed said: My issue is that mine has a long uptime.. and yours doesn't cool it enough during it's active time to be used for much of anything. Wheezeworts have no chance cooling the geyser to 'cool enough', they'll have hard time just condensing the steam. You need aquatuners or 'borg cube effect' to get the output colder. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Kasuha said: Wheezeworts have no chance cooling the geyser to 'cool enough', they'll have hard time just condensing the steam. You need aquatuners or 'borg cube effect' to get the output colder. So basically you have to abuse unnatural mechanics to get useable liquid. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, TheExceed said: Then how should I go about cooling the liquid after its condensed efficiently? Aquatuners. You can check my map, it has complete solution. Hot water for electrolyzers because they're fine with it, cooled water for my base and farm. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, TheExceed said: Then how should I go about cooling the liquid after its condensed efficiently? I suggest borg cube or pumping it to your unused AETN Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: I suggest borg cube or pumping it to your unused AETN Radiator it through cooling hydrogen in an enclosed aetn room? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: I suggest borg cube or pumping it to your unused AETN AETN can't cool water at reasonable rate. Come on. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, TheExceed said: Radiator it through cooling hydrogen in an enclosed aetn room? that or setting up a separate room and letting the heat pass though metal tiles and doors Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: that or setting up a separate room and letting the heat pass though metal tiles and doors Like @Kasuha said, would it cool quick enough for farms? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Kasuha said: AETN can't cool water at reasonable rate. Come on. oops you're right I forgot the water temp starts at 14C in that picture, nvm... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Neotuck said: that or setting up a separate room and letting the heat pass though metal tiles and doors That's essentially a Borg Cube. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Kasuha said: That's essentially a Borg Cube. how? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: how? There's a thin layer of water above the pump. It cools easily from metal plates because it's thin and has little mass. And then it propagates instantly to the rest of the chamber every time it shares tiny amount of its cool contents with the rest - I assume it happens when the pump removes some liquid. Though okay, the tempshift plates and the high heat conductivity of metal plates might be throwing spanner into the 'borg cube' works. I'm not 100% sure about it. I would believe there's some of it still left, though. AETN in principle provides about 4 Worts worth of cooling. That's very little when it comes to cooling water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Kasuha said: There's a thin layer of water above the pump. It cools easily from metal plates because it's thin and has little mass. And then it propagates instantly to the rest of the chamber every time it shares tiny amount of its cool contents with the rest - I assume it happens when the pump removes some liquid. When the water lvl drops the hydro sensor opens the shutoff valve and 14C water drops from the top If water temp in chamber is over 5C the doors close allowing heat to pass into the AETN chamber the pump pulls 5C water to my wheat farm Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: When the water lvl drops the hydro sensor opens the shutoff valve and 14C water drops from the top If water temp in chamber is over 5C the doors close allowing heat to pass into the AETN chamber the pump pulls 5C water to my wheat farm So only drops it 9C in how long? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, TheExceed said: So only drops it 9C in how long? well the AETN is like -150C so it usually closes for just a second. Sometimes it drops down to 4C or 3C Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Neotuck said: When the water lvl drops the hydro sensor opens the shutoff valve and 14C water drops from the top If water temp in chamber is over 5C the doors close allowing heat to pass into the AETN chamber the pump pulls 5C water to my wheat farm What is the setting of that hydro sensor? Could you test if it will still work as well if you set it to refill the chamber when below 950 kg? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89722-good-geyser-cooling/page/2/#findComment-1025538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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