Oni Noob Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hi, I am new to ONI, just joined during occupational upgrade. I was having fun because I found a map with 2 NG geyser near to each other(+ smart battery = almost infinite energy source) but now with Rancher Upgrade the geyser NG is always in dormant status not stable enough to be me power source. Please help TY, I am getting frustrated every time my base will die along with my NG getting dormant for 50+ cycles . Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 hey This is lifegrowski setup. This gas vent is never gonna overpressurize, crude oil have to be 870kg above, 871kg will do the job. This way u can store your natural gas so much, and try to do this setup ASAP if u found your geysers. this automation is so cool. thanks to Kasuha. Sensors: Top one is above 4000g, bottom one is above 1000g. and when geyser room is above 4000g pump works until it reaches below 1000g and it will start work again when above 4000g. Saves so much power!!! And never depend on natural gas generators, when u run low on natural gas try using coal, and when coal is running low, try using some hydrogen (we have hydrogen geyser!!!) from your electrolyzers, while that your natural gas bank will fill up, so never depend on one power generation, we have so many ways to make power! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hi Thanks for the @travaldofan, ill try this. Where are you pumping extra NG when its above 4000g? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Oni Noob said: pumping extra NG They are using liquid trick to keep vent from seeing air pressure. When NG enters space, oil goes down, ng goes left, oil comes back up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Oni Noob said: Hi Thanks for the @travaldofan, ill try this. Where are you pumping extra NG when its above 4000g? gas vent is exploit, the little room under the geyser room is my natural gas bank it already storing 100kg per tile natural gas Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Thanks for giving me an idea, I do not have plastic yet so I cant do the mini pump yet but instead I increase the room size where the NG gayser is located so its not over pressured 1 hour ago, Kabrute said: They are using liquid trick to keep vent from seeing air pressure. When NG enters space, oil goes down, ng goes left, oil comes back up. Wow I didn't know this trick, are you submerging the pump to oil so it wont go over pressure? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 the vent out is in oil, its not a pump the total oil in that space (top and bottom combined) is 870kg oil no pump just a vent outlet. The gas tiles stop the oil from moving left right, when gas comes into the vent the oil squeezes down into one square below the vent letting the gas out into the room. Then the oil fills back into the vents square stopping it from seeing how much gas is in the room, letting you fill the room with infinite gas pressure Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, Kabrute said: the vent out is in oil, its not a pump the total oil in that space (top and bottom combined) is 870kg oil no pump just a vent outlet. The gas tiles stop the oil from moving left right, when gas comes into the vent the oil squeezes down into one square below the vent letting the gas out into the room. Then the oil fills back into the vents square stopping it from seeing how much gas is in the room, letting you fill the room with infinite gas pressure Wow now I understand thanks for this. Would this work on water instead of oil?.. That solves my NG power Problem now my next obstacle is water keep running out of water any tips? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 plumb bathrooms, piped toilets put out more than they take in. If you keep it in pipes, germs have no impact on pretty much anything I ran them to so piping bathroom to itself through a seive on a loop gives extra water over time. Alternately look for water geysers. You can also take the pwater from the n-geysers and filter it. Algae distillers make p-water you can sieve then run through bathroom to convert slimelung to foodpoisoning before running to electros. Food poisoning is harmless in the air. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kabrute said: plumb bathrooms, piped toilets put out more than they take in. If you keep it in pipes, germs have no impact on pretty much anything I ran them to so piping bathroom to itself through a seive on a loop gives extra water over time. Alternately look for water geysers. You can also take the pwater from the n-geysers and filter it. Algae distillers make p-water you can sieve then run through bathroom to convert slimelung to foodpoisoning before running to electros. Food poisoning is harmless in the air. How about Cool Steam Vent any use for it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 yes, but thats a lot of heat to deal with. Short answer is statues and weezeworts. Plumb with abysalite and delete the liquids heat with buildings like seives and electrolizers or use the heat to sterilize germy water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Kabrute said: yes, but thats a lot of heat to deal with. Short answer is statues and weezeworts. Plumb with abysalite and delete the liquids heat with buildings like seives and electrolizers or use the heat to sterilize germy water. Man I need restart another game, I run out of water and killed my base In Regards the bathroom connected to Water Sieve what do you do with the extra water? Can I pump the extra water to my plants I know it has food poisoning on it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Antigravity System.sav if you plumb it directly to the plants, no problems other than a little heat bleed (seive outputs at a constant 40C, 10C above plants comfort zone) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 50 minutes ago, Kabrute said: the vent out is in oil, its not a pump the total oil in that space (top and bottom combined) is 870kg oil no pump just a vent outlet. The gas tiles stop the oil from moving left right, when gas comes into the vent the oil squeezes down into one square below the vent letting the gas out into the room. Then the oil fills back into the vents square stopping it from seeing how much gas is in the room, letting you fill the room with infinite gas pressure Can I use the ordinary vent with this or it has to be the high pressure vent? And Does it have to be oil? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 poke around my save file a bit. I didn't do the bathroom route I went the cool steam vent route Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Kabrute said: Antigravity System.sav if you plumb it directly to the plants, no problems other than a little heat bleed (seive outputs at a constant 40C, 10C above plants comfort zone) Oh I see temperature is also a problem with my plants.. Man this version make me force to think harder 3 minutes ago, Kabrute said: Antigravity System.sav if you plumb it directly to the plants, no problems other than a little heat bleed (seive outputs at a constant 40C, 10C above plants comfort zone) Thats weird I cant download the file Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kabrute said: that is weird one sec please Antigravity System.sav Thanks I was able to download it. Let me check 6 minutes ago, Oni Noob said: Thanks I was able to download it. Let me check Hmmm not sure what happened but the sav file is not working. Anyway a screenshot would be find if you have Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Cooling the steam geyser Makes plastic slowly but steadily worry free My central base. The power grid. Hydrogen fuels everything right now, but not everything is allowed to run at once. Namely I only run crusher/loom when not researching and I don't normally run crusher and loom at same time. I dumped the last of my starting water into my geyser tank to quick cool it. its between 30 and 50 c now depending on where in the tank you sample. before it was over 70c in the tank and climbing towards 80 :/ as for my rediculous amount of food, I'm only growing the berries everything else is free range. By not farming these upper teir foods I just have to maintain atmospheric conditions. Using them as a supplement resulted in an overabundance. I started out with 20 mealwood plants then build a garden of 15 bristles, then rebuild the mealwood garden to hold more bristles, then progressed to this. It was an evolution over time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Kabrute said: Cooling the steam geyser Makes plastic slowly but steadily worry free My central base. The power grid. Hydrogen fuels everything right now, but not everything is allowed to run at once. Namely I only run crusher/loom when not researching and I don't normally run crusher and loom at same time. I dumped the last of my starting water into my geyser tank to quick cool it. its between 30 and 50 c now depending on where in the tank you sample. before it was over 70c in the tank and climbing towards 80 :/ as for my rediculous amount of food, I'm only growing the berries everything else is free range. By not farming these upper teir foods I just have to maintain atmospheric conditions. Using them as a supplement resulted in an overabundance. I started out with 20 mealwood plants then build a garden of 15 bristles, then rebuild the mealwood garden to hold more bristles, then progressed to this. It was an evolution over time. Wow this is nice, In Cooling the steam using statue what meterial are you using to create it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 igneous being in the water cools the statue below evaporation, being in the air carries that cold up into the air. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Kabrute said: igneous being in the water cools the statue below evaporation, being in the air carries that cold up into the air. Cool ill try it out. Recreating new map is so frustrating, after the effort I put on my previous game it just died because of lack of water really sad. 3 minutes ago, Kabrute said: igneous being in the water cools the statue below evaporation, being in the air carries that cold up into the air. One more question where you getting hydrogen? Did you find a hydrogen geyser? Is it supposed to be super hot? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I know the feeling. You can reply without quoting, and even just quote snippets by highlighting and clicking the little pop up 6 minutes ago, Oni Noob said: Cool ill try it out. You can skip quoting all together by scrolling to the bottom and just hitting reply. If you want to make sure a particular player gets notified type the @ symbol and start typing their name a popup will appear with a list of options so you can tag someone. Generally speaking though thats only necessary in a new post that the person isn't already a part of the conversation. The forum uses circles for new topics, and stars for new posts in convos your already part of. at this point if I abandon a base its either because I get bored with it or someone dies in a way I can't prevent by going backwards in time (loading old saves) but I've been playing for months and learning from multiple sources and staying current with the changes by playing the preview build Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 In Geysers, is Eruption Period different from Active period ?? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 yes eruption period is a daily expectation while active, active period are the number of days active across a spread Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 @Kabrute nobody answered my question above regarding the unlimited air space can it be an ordinary vent? or it has the high pressure one? Does it only work on crude oil? Not sure how it works Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89039-any-easy-map-for-rancher-upgade/#findComment-1019276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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