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Maybe there is something I don't understand and someone can explain it to me, but I think that right now the displayed values regarding the heat generated and the actual heat generated is straight up nonsense.

I used the devtools to setup big and small batteries in vacuum, hydrogen generators, a power transformer and a space heater in a set amount of hydrogen.

The buildings were disabled and after an auto-save occurred, I loaded this safe and unpaused after enabling the buildings. The setup was run on speed three (not dev speed just in case). After the next auto-save, I loaded said save and read out the values. I'm therefore certain that I can work with a time passed of 600s.

I came to the following results: (small batteries, large batteries, hydrogen generator)

 

Copper:

  • 4979.4 W = 200000g * 0.386 Ws/g/K * 38.7K /600s
  • 4966.5 W = 400000g * 0.386 Ws/g/K * 19.3K /600s
  • 9933.1 W = 800000g * 0.386 Ws/g/K * 19.3K /600s

Wolframite

  • 4975.9 W = 200000g * 0.134 Ws/g/K * 111.4K /600s
  • 4975.9 W = 400000g * 0.134 Ws/g/K * 55.7K /600s
  • 9951.8 W = 800000g * 0.134 Ws/g/K * 55.7K /600s

Gold Amalgam

  • 4975.0 W = 200000g * 0.15 Ws/g/K * 99.5K /600s
  • 4980.0 W = 400000g * 0.15 Ws/g/K * 49.8K /600s
  • 9960.0 W = 800000g * 0.15 Ws/g/K * 49.8K /600s

Iron Ore

  • 4968.9 W = 200000g * 0.449 Ws/g/K * 33.2K /600s
  • 4968.9 W = 400000g * 0.449 Ws/g/K * 16.6K /600s
  • 9937.9 W = 800000g * 0.449 Ws/g/K * 16.6K /600s

Power Transformer (Copper)

  • 5030.9 W = 200000g * 0.386 Ws/g/K * 39.1K /600s

Space Heater

  • Hydrogen 15860 W = 100000g * 2.4 Ws/g/K * 39.65K /600s
  • Heater (Copper) 10499.2 W = 400000g * 0.386 Ws/g/K * 40.8K /600s
  • Wire (Copper) 636.9 W = 25000g * 0.386 Ws/g/K * 39.6K /600s
  • Sum 26996.1 W

 

Assuming rounding errors and the appearance that the in game values are kilowatts rather than watts the discrepancies are the following:

  • Small/Large Batteries: 5kW (6.25W)
  • Hydrogen Generator: 10kW (20W)
  • Power Transformer: 5 kW (5W)
  • Space Heater: 27kW (90W)
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1/ Generated heat has no relation to consumed power

2/ Generated heat is 200 times greater than what the building reports. It's a weird consequence of the fact that buildings act as 5 times lighter for heat transfer purposes and devs tried to hide the fact, and that the value is in kW instead of W.

3/ Buildings generate two types of heat. One of them is applied on the building, the other goes straight to environment but is reduced proportionally if there's not enough environmental element present (and disappears completely in vacuum)

Edit: explanation image.

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"Normal operation" times 200 is warming up the generator itself

"Excess produced" times 200 is warming up directly the surrounding air.

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4 hours ago, Kasuha said:

1/ Generated heat has no relation to consumed power

I assume you were referring to the fact that I wrote the power consumption value for the space heater. This was not my intention and I fixed the original post.

4 hours ago, Kasuha said:

2/ Generated heat is 200 times greater than what the building reports. It's a weird consequence of the fact that buildings act as 5 times lighter for heat transfer purposes and devs tried to hide the fact, and that the value is in kW instead of W.

Wow. That is straight up silly. I hope this doesn't make it out of alpha.

At least I now know the calculations to work with, thanks to you. (Even the Space Heater works out, which I didn't expect)

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