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I absolutely HATE the Germ System!


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This is seriously the worst update you've put out so far. Not only do wash basins do nothing at all, but germs spread regardless of what ever you do! You need to disinfect **** the entire bloody time to make sure your dupes don't get sick.

Once they do get sick, the real fun begins. You're absolutely ****** when someone gets food poisoning, since all they do is throw up and get diarrhoea. Seriously, I'm not having any fun with this update at all. I wish we could re-play older builds because I don't feel like touching the game any longer, too aggravating!

Either rework germs or remove it. Horrible system.

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2 hours ago, Derigar said:

This is seriously the worst update you've put out so far. Not only do wash basins do nothing at all, but germs spread regardless of what ever you do! You need to disinfect **** the entire bloody time to make sure your dupes don't get sick.

Once they do get sick, the real fun begins. You're absolutely ****** when someone gets food poisoning, since all they do is throw up and get diarrhoea. Seriously, I'm not having any fun with this update at all. I wish we could re-play older builds because I don't feel like touching the game any longer, too aggravating!

Either rework germs or remove it. Horrible system.

Wash basins rid a dupe of all external germs, if your feeding your dupe with food which has germs it goes to internal germs and this is where it causes problems, You do not have to disinfect anything, this is there if you happen to have a building get seriously out of control but it shouldnt, have you got access to water and are your dupes transporting water to your wash basins? if not then they wont use the washbasins. The best thing to do is have your outhouses seperated from your base with 1 wash basin per outhouse, this way if 2 dupes go to the toilet they will both wash their hands when they come out.

Throwing up and diahorea are simple cases of mop it up and go to the toilet (Which give you more polluted water which is a bonus). Chances are you are letting your food get food poisoning on them. burst a pocket of chlorine and watch all your problems go away, literally it will kill germs over time and is extremely effective, I would suggest if you are struggling with food poison to also put your food storage in a pocket on Chlorine, this will kill the germs and then your dupes will not get sick.

Edit - Once you get yourself organised food poisoning becomes non existent anyway except in your polluted water supply which shouldn't infect dupes as long as your food isn't in it.

Edit 2 - Someone asked about how to deal with them in another thread, i have linked it below but please note that everything mentioned isnt foolproof, accidents happen.

 

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I've set my toilets up horizontally with a wash basins each (there's only two sets).  There is only a single path to access my bathroom tower, and I've got a washbasins in this hall.  The compost is behind the toilets connected by a ladder.  It was working well, until one of the wash basins adjacent to a toilet got infected.  Once this happened the outbreak was faster than my disinfection capabilities (I've only got 4 people).  The basin in the hall was not enough to clean a dup who had just used the toilet and then washed their hands in a dirty sink.

I've noticed that dups will not stop at a washbasin if they aren't germy (so I've added 2 more to my hall entrance), and that if a dup is too germy, then one basin may not be enough to clean him up, further encouraging the use of a plurality of basins at each point.  Since the basins themselves can get germy, I feel like I have to check my germ overview regularly just to check on them.  Once a basin gets germy, it seems that your in for a world of infection unless you notice, and fix it quickly.  Having to check my overlay every night has become vary tedious.

Suggestion: Give the basins some type of auto cleaning feature (the way the toilets auto declog).  When a basin gets dirty it seems to cause the problem its put there to fix.  Or at the vary least some type of  visual indicator, that doesn't require you to change overlays to see, indicating that they need to be cleaned.

 

 

 

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Yes, I was wrong before.  After watching for a while, I've noticed that the Dups ignore the Dirty washbasins.  

 

Even something as basic as having a out of order sign pop up on the basin (similar to how the toilet goes Out of order) would be helpful.

 

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8 hours ago, Derigar said:

This is seriously the worst update you've put out so far. Not only do wash basins do nothing at all, but germs spread regardless of what ever you do! You need to disinfect **** the entire bloody time to make sure your dupes don't get sick.

Once they do get sick, the real fun begins. You're absolutely ****** when someone gets food poisoning, since all they do is throw up and get diarrhoea. Seriously, I'm not having any fun with this update at all. I wish we could re-play older builds because I don't feel like touching the game any longer, too aggravating!

Either rework germs or remove it. Horrible system.

I'll just share the write-up I did on handling germs for a new player here as well:

 

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 how do i stop food poisoning even to begin with? consantly tried to disinfect everything and it still went down in a pit of vomit! this is game breakingly annoying as someone who loved this game can agree it makes me hate it.

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I made hundred plus cycles now in standard. And besides the early game I don't notice disease much. I think it works great. There is an extra element to consider. leave them in polluted oxygen with slime lung for too long and they get sick. I havn't seen a disease (Must abuse one of my dupes hehe). I am disappointed. And after lavatory food poisoning seems to become a non issue.

But I guess I just play too carefully. I play it in x1 speed only. Very relaxing and slow :-).

But really. Klei, now is the time to roll out the smelters, the high tech refining toys. Alloys and stuff like that. A new tier of plants requiring a new tier materials. A new tier of biomes that require new tech to handle. With rewards like diamonds and Radium fuel for that reactor that just has to be able melt down ;-).

lets have some fun now :-). I don't like the added alien surprises in the world though. They are fun the first time. Not after. Then they are just annoying. 

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