Beefalo Feeding Trough

[Daniel86268]

I think it would be nice to have a feeding trough to keep domesticated beefalo fed. (the salt lick only prevents domestication loss while standing near it, which didn't really work out for me (beefalo became undomesticated near a full salt lick while I was somewhere else, probably because the salt lick was unloaded on the map and the Beefalo domestication timer was still going and not recognizing the salt lick)).

So you can fill the Feeding through up with all items that could be usually fed to a beefalo instead of manually clicking every single item into a beefalo. This would become most useful/convenient when feeding an entire heard of domesticated beefalo of you and your friends at once, when you wanna take care of everyone's beefalo. (I'd say the Feeding Trough should have either 8 or 9 slots (2x4, or 3x3) inventory.)

Another idea could be that it slows spoilage rates like an ice box, so you can venture out a bit longer, but I guess that might end up beeing a bit too op.

As of how it feeds the beefalo I'd say near beefalo should auto eat to the point where they would stop begging for food (iirc they beg while beeing <50% hunger) (So the beefalo feeds itself from the through as long as it's hungry). This way they don't overfeed themselves.

Let me know what you think everyone, and also feel free to add suggestions/ideas.  

I hope this (or something similar) will make it into the game.

 

Happy Domesticating/Riding everyone

[Ecu]

I feel a bit torn about this.  On the one hand, I see the reasoning behind it.  However, on the other hand I feel like it would trivialize feeding (and as such raising), your Beefalo.  Unless you would have it so that it eating via the trough does not actually raise domestication or obedience at all and only provides the benefit of keeping it full.

[ittybritty]

Ecu you have a point, but having its hunger above 0 is what raises domestication (Along with riding) isn't it? By having the benefit of keeping it full, its domestication would raise, wouldn't it? 

[Daniel86268]

1 hour ago, Ecu said:

I feel a bit torn about this.  On the one hand, I see the reasoning behind it.  However, on the other hand I feel like it would trivialize feeding (and as such raising), your Beefalo.  Unless you would have it so that it eating via the trough does not actually raise domestication or obedience at all and only provides the benefit of keeping it full.

Good point, maybe only fully domesticated Beefalo can eat from a feeding Trough? This way it can only be used to maintain domestication of fully domesticated Beefalo, so the Salt Lick still remains really useful during the domestication process.

Also I'd say feeding from a Trough shouldn't increase obedience, since the beefalo feeds himself, and has no player interaction. (Which still requires the player to feed the ornery Beefalo manually before riding.)

[Sinister_Fang]

4 hours ago, Ecu said:

I feel a bit torn about this.  On the one hand, I see the reasoning behind it.  However, on the other hand I feel like it would trivialize feeding (and as such raising), your Beefalo.  Unless you would have it so that it eating via the trough does not actually raise domestication or obedience at all and only provides the benefit of keeping it full.

Well you still need to provide the food for it so there's still a significant resource cost. And trying to domesticate a beefalo already takes long enough already. So I don't really see the harm in this raising domestication.

Personally, I don't think I've seen anyone actually fully domesticate a beefalo. A simple new tool to help in the domestication process would be welcome and could make the whole process a tad less tedious.

[Daniel86268]

7 hours ago, Sinister_Fang said:

Well you still need to provide the food for it so there's still a significant resource cost. And trying to domesticate a beefalo already takes long enough already. So I don't really see the harm in this raising domestication.

Personally, I don't think I've seen anyone actually fully domesticate a beefalo. A simple new tool to help in the domestication process would be welcome and could make the whole process a tad less tedious.

I kinda agree, although Taming a Beefalo isn't that bad imo, I've done it three times already. (My first one died to a swarm of spring killer bees and my second one undomesticated next to a salt lick while I was playing with Bearger somewhere else.)

[Ecu]

19 hours ago, Sinister_Fang said:

Well you still need to provide the food for it so there's still a significant resource cost. And trying to domesticate a beefalo already takes long enough already. So I don't really see the harm in this raising domestication.

Personally, I don't think I've seen anyone actually fully domesticate a beefalo. A simple new tool to help in the domestication process would be welcome and could make the whole process a tad less tedious.

You won't likely see a fully domesticated Beefalo during average DST runs as it just isn't worth the time investment.

While I agree that there is still a significant resource cost to taming Beefalo, being able to just plop down a trough and fill it with food makes it too easy to tame (especially multiple Beefalo).  Perhaps it could improve domestication but not obedience, requiring player interaction to become obedient enough to ride?  This way you could use the trough to help keep Beefalo around, but if you wish to ride them and have them haul stuff, you need to brush them and build obedience still?

[Daniel86268]

On 11.12.2016 at 11:53 PM, Ecu said:

You won't likely see a fully domesticated Beefalo during average DST runs as it just isn't worth the time investment.

While I agree that there is still a significant resource cost to taming Beefalo, being able to just plop down a trough and fill it with food makes it too easy to tame (especially multiple Beefalo).  Perhaps it could improve domestication but not obedience, requiring player interaction to become obedient enough to ride?  This way you could use the trough to help keep Beefalo around, but if you wish to ride them and have them haul stuff, you need to brush them and build obedience still?

I like that idea, so obedience is still tied to player interaction.

[justjasper]

Personally, I don't actually think it matters if something like this makes domestication easier - the people who are going for ornery/rider beefalos are still going to have to put in the effort for manual domestication to get the temperament they want - if people want a bunch of pudgy/general domesticated beefalos the "easy" way then that's up to them. If you don't want to use it, you don't have to build it.

Plus if the trough were something that had durability and after X amount of time needed to be repaired, it would make it a constant resource-suck so it's not as if you build it and never have to think about it again. And a full trough (say 8 slots filled with 1 dragon pie per slot) might sustain a single beefalo for a few days, but the usefulness of it is going to be cut with each additional beefalo.