Fun Little Theory

[BananR_ManR]

8 minutes ago, Mobbstar said:

There's a lot of skeletons in your average DS world. Besides, Webber's skull does not appear again after unlocking him, so maybe They remove it by "unlocking" Webber as a plaything.

Yeah, maybe...

[thisbird]

I think that the person who said Webber's father was a scientist was right, but I don't think the spider ate him in the real world. I think his father made a gate similar to Wilson's (Webber comments that his father made something similar to a science machine before, so it's a reasonable possibility) and Webber wandered through, which explains how a spider got him and why his skull is in the DS world.

Now, we know Maxwell revives the survivors in single player mode. They see their own names on grave stones. So the question becomes: why did Maxwell revive everyone BUT Webber? Even Wes, who Maxwell clearly dislikes, was kept alive.

I wonder it's possible that Webber wasn't brought into the world by Maxwell at all. Maybe whoever was there before Maxwell and created the things he claims pre-dated him, like the merms, also brought survivors. That would explain why the skull was left behind, seemingly forgotten, and Webber was allowed to stay dead for so long.

[WildWesternWilson]

On 16 April 2016 at 5:33 PM, PillsStealer said:

There's a High chance that there is a child inside the Spider

• He says quotes as "Like mother used to make before this happened!" "Like father used to wear." "Mum always said I should take a cap with me." "Mum used to handle all of our sewing."  "My father kept goats." Referring to his parents.  
• He also mentions his collection of toys,"We could keep our toys in it!" "It looks like my old toy chest!" "Another toy!" "Yay, a new toy!" A reference to his toy collection.
• The reason why he grows a beard is because the spider is growing the beard, not the child himself. You can tell the spider's alive because it blinks. He also says pronouns as We, I, we're , us, etc.

We'll find out in the upcoming lore about Webber!

It was confirmed in the updated quotes that he is, indeed, a child.

And a cute one at that. Come on, even Wendy accepted a friendship bracelet. Wendy. Just… Iz bootiful. 

[TheTraditionalGentleman]

21 minutes ago, thisbird said:

I think that the person who said Webber's father was a scientist was right, but I don't think the spider ate him in the real world. I think his father made a gate similar to Wilson's (Webber comments that his father made something similar to a science machine before, so it's a reasonable possibility) and Webber wandered through, which explains how a spider got him and why his skull is in the DS world.

Now, we know Maxwell revives the survivors in single player mode. They see their own names on grave stones. So the question becomes: why did Maxwell revive everyone BUT Webber? Even Wes, who Maxwell clearly dislikes, was kept alive.

I wonder it's possible that Webber wasn't brought into the world by Maxwell at all. Maybe whoever was there before Maxwell and created the things he claims pre-dated him, like the merms, also brought survivors. That would explain why the skull was left behind, seemingly forgotten, and Webber was allowed to stay dead for so long.

I personally think that Webber was brought here by Maxwell, and my reason is that when he examines a Maxwell statue, he'll say something along the lines of "That's the guy who said he could help us!". It seems to me like everyone in the DS world was lured by Maxwell by what they most wanted (Wilson was scientific knowledge, Wendy was Abigail, Woodie might possibly be Lucy, but that's a theory for another time) and it makes sense to me that if Webber was eaten in the outside world, Maxwell could have told him that he could help him, thus luring him to the world/island. Then again though, it's hard to tell with his quotes. Just my thought anyway. 

[WildWesternWilson]

2 minutes ago, TheTraditionalGentleman said:

I personally think that Webber was brought here by Maxwell, and my reason is that when he examines a Maxwell statue, he'll say something along the lines of "That's the guy who said he could help us!". It seems to me like everyone in the DS world was lured by Maxwell by what they most wanted (Wilson was scientific knowledge, Wendy was Abigail, Woodie might possibly be Lucy, but that's a theory for another time) and it makes sense to me that if Webber was eaten in the outside world, Maxwell could have told him that he could help him, thus luring him to the world/island. Then again though, it's hard to tell with his quotes. Just my thought anyway. 

Yeah, unless we get some proper lore explaining this, we'll just have to draw our own conclusions on this --- which is fun, because you can technically call Webber Wilson's son if you twist facts to suit theories and say they weren't a farmer, but a scientist with an Alchemy Engine who experimented on goats. 

Sherlock Holmes would hate me. 

[TheTraditionalGentleman]

1 minute ago, WildWesternWilson said:

Yeah, unless we get some proper lore explaining this, we'll just have to draw our own conclusions on this --- which is fun, because you can technically call Webber Wilson's son if you twist facts to suit theories and say they weren't a farmer, but a scientist with an Alchemy Engine who experimented on goats. 

Sherlock Holmes would hate me. 

Hahaha twisting facts to suit theory, eh WildWesternWilson? Very well, earn the ire of Holmes. But in the meantime, I will continue to run under the assumption that the only possible relation Wilson has out of the characters is Willow as his niece. . . 

[WildWesternWilson]

1 minute ago, TheTraditionalGentleman said:

Hahaha twisting facts to suit theory, eh WildWesternWilson? Very well, earn the ire of Holmes. But in the meantime, I will continue to run under the assumption that the only possible relation Wilson has out of the characters is Willow as his niece. . . 

While I make Holmes irattisimus, perhaps I should explain my --- albeit very weak, and full of conjecture --- argument as to the relationship. 

 

Well, actually, it's mostly just arguing that it wasn't actually a farmer but a scientist in his AE and Volt Goat examinations, and the somewhat baseless rambles that, 'Wilson was living alone due to family problems, meaning he could've settled down at one point before trouble arose.' 

 

Also, colour me intrigued: Why are you so adamant that Willow is related? I share the same view, but I'm curious. 

[TheTraditionalGentleman]

31 minutes ago, WildWesternWilson said:

While I make Holmes irattisimus, perhaps I should explain my --- albeit very weak, and full of conjecture --- argument as to the relationship. 

 

Well, actually, it's mostly just arguing that it wasn't actually a farmer but a scientist in his AE and Volt Goat examinations, and the somewhat baseless rambles that, 'Wilson was living alone due to family problems, meaning he could've settled down at one point before trouble arose.' 

 

Also, colour me intrigued: Why are you so adamant that Willow is related? I share the same view, but I'm curious. 

I hadn't thought about that before. But if Wilson is living alone and has family problems, then who is his wife? 

And as to Willow, here are my ideas. 

Both Wilson and Willow have black and unruly hair, they both dress similarly, I think they have really similar stats (but I don't play as Willow so I'm not sure), and some of Willows comments have lead me to believe that she's intelligent, like Wilson. Then there is also the age difference. I'd estimate that Wilson is in his 30's, while Willow, however young she is, has a teddy bear and it is kind of implied that she is an orphan (a young one). These aren't overwelming facts, but I think that Wilson and Willow do look kind of related. Personally, I think that part of it is that I want him to be her uncle, but I think that these things do kind of point in that direction. 

Just now, TheTraditionalGentleman said:

I hadn't thought about that before. But if Wilson is living alone and has family problems, then who is his wife? 

And as to Willow, here are my ideas. 

Both Wilson and Willow have black and unruly hair, they both dress similarly, I think they have really similar stats (but I don't play as Willow so I'm not sure), and some of Willows comments have lead me to believe that she's intelligent, like Wilson. Then there is also the age difference. I'd estimate that Wilson is in his 30's, while Willow, however young she is, has a teddy bear and it is kind of implied that she is an orphan (a young one). These aren't overwelming facts, but I think that Wilson and Willow do look kind of related. Personally, I think that part of it is that I want him to be her uncle, but I think that these things do kind of point in that direction. 

And on a side note (out of curiosity), are you English by any chance? I couldn't help but notice the way that you spelled it as "colour"  

[thisbird]

52 minutes ago, TheTraditionalGentleman said:

I personally think that Webber was brought here by Maxwell, and my reason is that when he examines a Maxwell statue, he'll say something along the lines of "That's the guy who said he could help us!". It seems to me like everyone in the DS world was lured by Maxwell by what they most wanted (Wilson was scientific knowledge, Wendy was Abigail, Woodie might possibly be Lucy, but that's a theory for another time) and it makes sense to me that if Webber was eaten in the outside world, Maxwell could have told him that he could help him, thus luring him to the world/island. Then again though, it's hard to tell with his quotes. Just my thought anyway. 

I do think that Maxwell offered to help him. I don't necessarily think he got the offer outside of the world. Who could say no to the offer of resurrection, after all? Then a survivor conveniently finds the skull that's been lying missing in a spider's nest for who knows how long.

[WildWesternWilson]

7 minutes ago, TheTraditionalGentleman said:

I hadn't thought about that before. But if Wilson is living alone and has family problems, then who is his wife? 

And as to Willow, here are my ideas. 

Both Wilson and Willow have black and unruly hair, they both dress similarly, I think they have really similar stats (but I don't play as Willow so I'm not sure), and some of Willows comments have lead me to believe that she's intelligent, like Wilson. Then there is also the age difference. I'd estimate that Wilson is in his 30's, while Willow, however young she is, has a teddy bear and it is kind of implied that she is an orphan (a young one). These aren't overwelming facts, but I think that Wilson and Willow do look kind of related. Personally, I think that part of it is that I want him to be her uncle, but I think that these things do kind of point in that direction. 

And on a side note (out of curiosity), are you English by any chance? I couldn't help but notice the way that you spelled it as "colour"  

A: My personal hypothesis was that Willow was the wife, but the problem is that there is very little evidence supporting previous relationships such as that. And besides that, the new quotes don't seem to shed light on the matter… For all we know, the assumption there was a wife may be entirely wrong in of itself. 

 

B: Why, yes, I am from Scotland. An eye for detail, I see. 

[TheTraditionalGentleman]

11 minutes ago, WildWesternWilson said:

A: My personal hypothesis was that Willow was the wife, but the problem is that there is very little evidence supporting previous relationships such as that. And besides that, the new quotes don't seem to shed light on the matter… For all we know, the assumption there was a wife may be entirely wrong in of itself. 

 

B: Why, yes, I am from Scotland. An eye for detail, I see. 

I hadn't ever thought about it that way. What about her teddy bear?

And thank you. I really like words  

[WildWesternWilson]

7 hours ago, TheTraditionalGentleman said:

I hadn't ever thought about it that way. What about her teddy bear?

And thank you. I really like words  

Ah, the teddy bear. Bernie is interesting because it could be either --- and likely is --- just a sentimental toy to Willow, or someone else's toy. Like a child's. 

Unfortunately, at this point, my hypothesis is merely a head canon, as there is very little to go off of than conjecture.