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Pops shrugs.

"I admit you've seen some weird things. But this is Joseph's mind we're talking about. He's been developing it his entire life. Anything that he can fathom, he can create. And his subconsciousness won't like a couple people jumping in and trying to change things."

"Okay. Lie down. It'll just feel like you're asleep. And you're dreaming. Only difference is you won't be able to wake up until I the gate is opened. I'll be able to speak to you in there."

Pops sits in a meditative position, taking deep breaths.

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