Tranoze Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 With bunch new plants under water, new problem arise: how do you mutate them. Water are very resistant to radiation that most source of radiation become super weak. Only good solution so far is crashed satellite, but they are very limited and cant be plant on any asteroid. Can we have Emulsifier make Nuclear waste water that plant can live on and have the water itself become the source of radiation? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigin Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Sad times indeed. The rad lamps is just barely enough for 253 rads per cycle for 1 plant . 1000kg nuclear waste on the floor is also just a hair below 250 rads/cycle. Crashed satellite for me seems to only be about 190 rads/cycle for one cycle if you keep the whole thing submerged. Most practical right now honestly might be planting around a reactor setup. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1870708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted June 8 Author Share Posted June 8 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tigin said: Sad times indeed. The rad lamps is just barely enough for 253 rads per cycle for 1 plant . 1000kg nuclear waste on the floor is also just a hair below 250 rads/cycle. Crashed satellite for me seems to only be about 190 rads/cycle for one cycle if you keep the whole thing submerged. Most practical right now honestly might be planting around a reactor setup. let me teach you the way. Instead of full tank of liquid, make 2 layer of salt water and brine each layer 10 kg (or less) by deconstruct pipe (get less by making 1 line of pipe with liquid valve, 10g of liquid wont spoil to left or right.). use tile to separate the liquid, and you got much less radiation resistant environment. I used it for back in PPP to mutate them, but still we really need better radiation underwater. Edited June 8 by Tranoze Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1870733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
myxal Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 9 hours ago, Tranoze said: make 2 layer of salt water and brine each layer 10 kg (or less) Fun fact from the bug tracker's firehose: radiation from waste is not attenuated by environment. No need to reduce liquid mass if you're using waste as the radiation source. I haven't tested it myself, but I suspect it can pass through even neutronium. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1870762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pproy Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 What about changing the blooming mutation so instead of providing a decor bonus, it would make the mutated plant emit radiation, at the cost of yielding low to no crop? We could then spread a couple of those plant in a farm to help spread radiation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1870765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted June 8 Author Share Posted June 8 3 hours ago, myxal said: Fun fact from the bug tracker's firehose: radiation from waste is not attenuated by environment. No need to reduce liquid mass if you're using waste as the radiation source. I haven't tested it myself, but I suspect it can pass through even neutronium. Only useable nuclear waste tile for farming is solid one. Liquid one require bunker/door block, and heat insulation, which, by the time you block the heat and the liquid pressure, you have no tile of radiation left. So you have to form massive tons tiles, cool them down to plant temperature, then use them. Which will take you WAYYYY too much time. 3 hours ago, Pproy said: What about changing the blooming mutation so instead of providing a decor bonus, it would make the mutated plant emit radiation, at the cost of yielding low to no crop? We could then spread a couple of those plant in a farm to help spread radiation. It still only work for air plants. Problem is water based liquid are very radiation resistant and require lots of work to get radiation touch plants you need. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1870796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoehange Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 On 6/7/2026 at 11:01 PM, Tranoze said: let me teach you the way. Instead of full tank of liquid, make 2 layer of salt water and brine each layer 10 kg (or less) by deconstruct pipe (get less by making 1 line of pipe with liquid valve, 10g of liquid wont spoil to left or right.). use tile to separate the liquid, and you got much less radiation resistant environment. I used it for back in PPP to mutate them, but still we really need better radiation underwater. I know it's not relevant, but why are you making drywall out of ceramic?! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1871147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted June 10 Author Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, zoehange said: I know it's not relevant, but why are you making drywall out of ceramic?! because it the highest decor value for my dupe room and i just copy it and use it since im arleady rich. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1871156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoehange Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 4 hours ago, Tranoze said: because it the highest decor value for my dupe room and i just copy it and use it since im arleady rich. Doesn't wood have higher decor? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1871171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, zoehange said: Doesn't wood have higher decor? Back when i play this world cant build it with wood. This world i already dug, pump and complete wipe all asteroid so i stopped playing years ago. I just go there take screen shot of the liquid mechanic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1871176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pproy Posted Thursday at 01:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:07 PM Random idea, with the introduction of glass backwall, what if we could make it out of uranium (aka uranium glass)? It would'nt need to emit a ton of radiation, but just enough so it can support mutated plant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/172018-there-need-to-be-better-source-of-radiation-underwater/#findComment-1872932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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