Wx has no down sides

[Lord-King-Bear]

They need to give him a new down side imo infinite heat/cold and infinite light makes survival so easy. Needs like a fuel mechanic or something to fuel all his devices he’ll at this point increased hunger drain from gadgets would at least be something negative to the character. 

[Kvetevk]

wetness is hard counter to wx78
if you are a good player who kills deerclops and make eyebrella, good for you, but you can also die by just drowning, because you lose health not only from drowning but also from wetness (overtime).
unlike others, wx78 have more impactful downside, making his charges slowly decrease while also damaging you in the progress.

[Templar_Warden]

3 minutes ago, Lord-King-Bear said:

They need to give him a new down side imo infinite heat/cold and infinite light makes survival so easy. Needs like a fuel mechanic or something to fuel all his devices he’ll at this point increased hunger drain from gadgets would at least be something negative to the character. 

That was like the whole point of him don’t starve single player. Didn’t wanna deal with food, play wx because he can eat spoiled food. Didn’t wanna deal with low stats, play wx-78, didn’t wanna deal with cold, play wx, don’t wanna deal with light, play wx, don’t wanna deal with being slow, play wx. Also there is still a lot of characters that are stronger than wx-78 and dealing with heat/cold and light is easy. Just get a thermal stone and a lantern/miners helmet. Wx78 just makes it more convenient which is what he’s suppose to do.

[Primalflower]

how you know someone hasnt had to deal with autumn rain in the caves

[doritosdamafia]

a good amount of characters have loose their downsides thanks to skill trees and probably the rest will loose it too, besides the things you try to use to say he have no downside are very easy to deal with if you played more than 50 hours

Edited Monday at 06:01 PM by doritosdamafia

[Evelo]

I agree to some extent. Wetness is really easy to ignore. Eyebrella, Straw Hat + Umbrella, Rain Coat all super easy to acquire and completely remove the downside. Given how early it can be to obtain the rain coat, the downside goes to "can't wear a backpack or body armor" which is still a downside I guess. That is assuming rain is happening 24/7 which is a neat challenge if you turn Rain to the highest setting.

But DST as a whole has mitigated the significance of downsides. I don't even try to fight it anymore, I'm just waiting for Elsewhere to fix all the problems and focus on survival instead of boss fights.

[Lord-King-Bear]

2 hours ago, Primalflower said:

how you know someone hasnt had to deal with autumn rain in the caves

Eyebrella too early but you could get lucky and get rain hat from swamp walk through for tentacle spots 

[Maxil20]

DST players impress me to no end about how the fact they go specifically out of their way to get specific items on a character, compared to not being nearly as required as any other character, and not realizing they do this to counter a specific downside a character has. It reminds me of how people say Wanda's low health "isn't a downside" when they use night armor, an armor type that is considerably more difficult to upkeep than traditional armors like log suits/football helms.

The strict Wetness threshold is quite difficult for WX, especially compared to the carefree nature most characters get. I genuinely have practiced not equipping wetness items for most of a rainstorm as Wetness as most characters can effectively be ignored until 35 wetness, and can be mostly ignored if you don't mind sanity drain until 70 wetness (as that's when items start slipping out of your hand). The only other downside is temperature loss, which isn't super impactful unless it's late autumn-early spring (and technically an upside during summer!) WX by comparison practically loses all of their upsides and takes a ramping HP loss when you go higher than 15. It's quite the jump!

[LavenderLillie]

WX is a character who doesn't have a persistent downside but moreso an Achilles' Heel: the vast majority of the time you will be completely unaffected by their weakness to wetness, but if you ever happen to go above 15 wetness, you're pretty likely to die.

[MrsBoris]

WX is perfect at surviving but extremely fragile to water (a natural, frequent game ocurrence) deactivating all his circuits and turn him into a useless dying 100 health ant.

Thats a more meaningful downside than most of the cast. terrible take.

[Baark0]

do you want a downside because you think it'll make their gameplay loop more enjoyable, or do you want a downside solely for the purpose of having a downside?

[Mysterious box]

Personally I do think his downside should be more relevant but I feel like people often go the boring route of adding new downsides when a more interesting answer would be to add enemies that make the player wet. Like perhaps an enemy that makes you gain 2 to 5 wetness per hit with a water gun attack that deals no damage but gives you 5 wetness per second while in the area of effect.

[doritosdamafia]

35 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

Personally I do think his downside should be more relevant but I feel like people often go the boring route of adding new downsides when a more interesting answer would be to add enemies that make the player wet. Like perhaps an enemy that makes you gain 2 to 5 wetness per hit with a water gun attack that deals no damage but gives you 5 wetness per second while in the area of effect.

malbatros kinda do that, but most people don't fight him and probably never will

[Mysterious box]

33 minutes ago, doritosdamafia said:

malbatros kinda do that, but most people don't fight him and probably never will

I mean more so basic mobs on land rather than just for a boss fight kinda like how we got volt goats, clockwork bishops, red salamanders who are increased threats for wormwood.

[doritosdamafia]

57 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

I mean more so basic mobs on land rather than just for a boss fight kinda like how we got volt goats, clockwork bishops, red salamanders who are increased threats for wormwood.

volt goats and clockworks(only a recent change made them a bigger threats) are pretty unintentional, also saladmanders are neutral and drop nothing of value, so there's no reason to fight them, most characters that have a mob or boss that "counter" said character is more of a coincidence

[Mysterious box]

39 minutes ago, doritosdamafia said:

volt goats and clockworks(only a recent change made them a bigger threats) are pretty unintentional

This just isn't true at all. Bishops didn't need to have an electric attack that was a deliberate choice on their part just like Wormwood didn't need to be included with plants on the burn target for electric damage. Wigfrid is the best showcase of how Klei will backstep on that kind of thing if they don't intend it. They didn't just forget Wormwood was a plant nor did they have to make bishops attacks electric it could have still stunned without being that.

 

39 minutes ago, doritosdamafia said:

also saladmanders are neutral and drop nothing of value, so there's no reason to fight them, most characters that have a mob or boss that "counter" said character is more of a coincidence

They drop dragonfruit which can kickstart a dragonfruit farm without rng. Also even if some characters would be countered by coincidence that doesn't make the counters any less valid but in the case of Wormwood it's clear it's intentional.

 

Edit: just as an aside the change to bishops actually made them weaker yeah they stun you but you are able to dodge them a lot easier now.

Edited 3 hours ago by Mysterious box