Are Wigfrid's skill tree and WX-78's skill tree really from the same game?

[Your Chester]

Why is Wigfrid’s skill tree such a lazy design? Her shield has low durability, deals little damage, and costs way too much to craft. The Commander Helmet barely adds anything over the regular Battle Helmet besides knockback resistance—and to top it off, it only repairs durability when you’re at full health. What even is the point of this mechanic? It’s easily the laziest, most useless upgrade in the whole tree. If I have to take zero damage to fix my armor, why bother wearing armor in the first place?

[ZeRoboButler]

I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way, but when it comes to the Commander helm, it's got good value for people who are good at kiting. It can be a potential forever helm combined with the elding spear and killing groups of lesser mobs like spider or bees, which later on can repair both the spear and the helm. 

Not even accounting for the additional planar defense it can get if you invest into it, It would be potentially disingenuous to say that it's lazy or poor design, when both the spear and the helmet reward players for avoiding damage and finding good ways to recharge/repair them. 

As for the shield, I mean it's probably not going to be used all the time, but the shield does have some great use cases in solo and multiplayer as a tanking tool.

I will say I agree the gold cost could stand to be reduced a bit, but combined with...

• The ability for the shield itself to take no damage when it is using its shield ability
• The player taking no damage during its ability
• reducing the durability loss as a weapon combined with the battle song

If this is still not enough, it would be astounding really.

But on one hand they did say they were going to look back on some of the earlier trees and make some smaller changes, but wigfrid and willow where some of the better ones... I would be surprised if that was a high priority. 

Best of luck though, Genuinely.

[Pruinae]

JoeW said this a few days ago

Basically wait for the roadmap and we will see what they plan to do about this disparity

[Soul7k]

It's so nice seeing that some might get tweaked. that beef line really needs some shine. Actually makes me really excited.

[cutirangtho]

 

1 hour ago, Pruinae said:

JoeW said this a few days ago

Basically wait for the roadmap and we will see what they plan to do about this disparity

the one who need it really is Wolfgang.Like in all the release skill tree.Wolfgang is so basic and lazy filler so much that it just hurt my eye when look at it.

[Gashzer]

The battle shield is the most gamechanging weapon in DST. The ability to parry is crazy strong, gold and beefalo wool are cheap, being handslot armour means you can wear a beefalo hat during winter/eyebrella during summer which means wigfrid has indirect buffs to weather insulation. 

Battle saddle Ornery beefalo synergises with commander helm, outside of boss fights you can just tank everything with the battle saddle ornery to repair the commander helm and then the beefalo also acts like a second health pool during boss fights. If your commander helms gets too damaged just jump on to ornery for the rest of the fight.

Wigfrid is all about tanking, the beefalo skills, shield skills and commander helm all synergize so you will never need to kite or prep healing/armour ever again.

Wolfgang and wilson need tweaks to their skilltrees. 

Wigfrid has a great skilltree.

[Cheggf]

Wigfrid has one of the better skill trees, and the Commander Helm is probably the single best perk on the entire thing. 

[BB Marioni]

23 hours ago, Soul7k said:

It's so nice seeing that some might get tweaked. that beef line really needs some shine. Actually makes me really excited.

I was thinking, she should be able to use her spear while mounted, kinda like jousting.

 

Also some of her songs need tweaking to be relevant. The apnic and taunt ones need more duration. The fireproof should also apply to lunar flame.

[Soul7k]

6 hours ago, BB Marioni said:

I was thinking, she should be able to use her spear while mounted, kinda like jousting.

 

Also some of her songs need tweaking to be relevant. The apnic and taunt ones need more duration. The fireproof should also apply to lunar flame.

While that could be cool. I am not sure how mechanically that would work. song tweaks could be nice. Its mostly that the first 2 don't do anything when u train them. She used to have a skill that gave beef planar, which could be baked into one of the two, and maybe one that lets her beef able to trigger the on-hit effect of songs and possibly generate inspiration(song bar). 

[BB Marioni]

7 hours ago, Soul7k said:

While that could be cool. I am not sure how mechanically that would work. song tweaks could be nice. Its mostly that the first 2 don't do anything when u train them. She used to have a skill that gave beef planar, which could be baked into one of the two, and maybe one that lets her beef able to trigger the on-hit effect of songs and possibly generate inspiration(song bar). 

Attacking with a beef currently actually triggers her lifesteal and sanity gain songs (just tested this as Im currently playing a beefalo build wigfrid).  She also has passive inspiration gain while riding a beef with her skill tree, but she doesnt gain much of her combat bonuses. Which make it seem that her current ideal build with beefalo skills will just be using a rider beefalo to gain inspiration before combat, then dismounting to attack. 

What I did personally was just use the nightmare saddle dor beef melee, then switch to gloomerang to use wigfrids combat benefits, but this way just makes almost ebery other skill in her tree useless as I cant use the spear, helm or shield while mounted, which already makes up more than half of her skills XD

She looks cool in gilded knight set, if only she could joust XD

Edited March 24 by BB Marioni

[Soul7k]

43 minutes ago, BB Marioni said:

Attacking with a beef currently actually triggers her lifesteal and sanity gain songs (just tested this as Im currently playing a beefalo build wigfrid).  She also has passive inspiration gain while riding a beef with her skill tree, but she doesnt gain much of her combat bonuses. Which make it seem that her current ideal build with beefalo skills will just be using a rider beefalo to gain inspiration before combat, then dismounting to attack. 

What I did personally was just use the nightmare saddle dor beef melee, then switch to gloomerang to use wigfrids combat benefits, but this way just makes almost ebery other skill in her tree useless as I cant use the spear, helm or shield while mounted, which already makes up more than half of her skills XD

She looks cool in gilded knight set, if only she could joust XD

that's weird didn't notice it last time and your right

[DegenerateFurry]

I still do not get why they made Wigfrid the beefalo-tamer character. It just doesn't make sense.

Beefalo combat makes you do the same amount of damage regardless of your character, takes damage for you, and ignores your held items because it's the beefalo hitting things.

Wigfrid has custom armor (that she isn't using while riding), custom weapons (which she also isn't using while riding), extra damage (which she doesn't benefit from while riding), built-in defense (also not used while riding), and heals from hitting things (which doesn't heal the beefalo that takes damage for her).

She gets perks that let her tame beefalo faster and which let her make a special saddle that gives the beefalo defense and extra damage, but is locked behind winter and is actually slower than the default saddle.

The only reason Wigfrid has to tame a beefalo is for transport, not for combat. She is way stronger fighting by herself instead of using the beefalo. Her battle saddle is therefore a stupid perk for her to have because now that's telling us Klei wants Wigfrids who tame beefalos to tame them for fighting.

There are very few characters who benefit less from having a beefalo than Wigfrid, but here we are with a bunch of combat-oriented beefalo perks for Wigfrid.

As others have said, doing combat beefalo as Wigfrid means you're not really using her other skills in the tree due to the aforementioned mechanics of beefalo combat.

The only niche she has here is to tame beefalos for other players that actually benefit from using them.

On 3/22/2026 at 6:35 AM, Pruinae said:

JoeW said this a few days ago

Basically wait for the roadmap and we will see what they plan to do about this disparity

Did we actually get a roadmap at all last year?

Edited March 24 by DegenerateFurry

[Edible Coal]

5 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said:

 

Did we actually get a roadmap at all last year?

nope

6 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said:

I still do not get why they made Wigfrid the beefalo-tamer character. It just doesn't make sense.

the only reason is thematic, thats it ( valkyries ususally have a unicorn rider , so klei just think it would be cool for wigfrid have one too )

i legit cannot think of another reason

 

9 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said:

There are very few characters who benefit less from having a beefalo than Wigfrid, but here we are with a bunch of combat-oriented beefalo perks for Wigfrid.

is kinda a joke where wendy should have that part instead and it will make more sense then Wigfrid does