Mojmaowo Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I kinda don't like how useless the character specific fertilisers compared to non character specific ones so let me explain myself You need 3 manure 2 boneshards and 4 logs to make bucket of poop which is equivalent to using 20 manure which is pretty good deal since 1 bucket of poop is enough to get you 10 giant potatoes or 5 giant dragon fruits The only thing I would change is that upon completely using it it should give you back the materials for the bucket itself so it's consistent with the growth formula So basically putting manure in a bucket makes it over 6 times more efficient Growth formula is similar to bucket of poop except instead it has 5 uses which are twice as efficient It needs 1 bottle (which is returned upon completely using it), 1 ash and 1 kelp which makes it incredibly cheap and worth it for farming 1 super growth formula can grow 10 giant pumpkins and 5 giant onions Unfortunately compost doesn't have such a good equivalent to bucket of poop and super growth formula the closest we have is compost which needs 2 wet/dry items to make 1 compost which is as good as 3 rot or 1.5 rotten egg so if you use 2 rotten eggs for compost you lose value You are usually way better using rot directly than compost since you don't need to build a structure for it and you will usually have more than enough of it You can use 20 rot to grow 10 giant asparagus or 5 giant garlic which isn't bad at all since you are likely to get a lot of rot from unused seeds and food Basically monocropping isn't really that expensive and it is usually more worth it than doing crop combos if you want only 1 specific crop The problem I have is with the character specific fertilisers Like compost wrap which needs 5 manure 2 rot and 1 nitre It is as efficient as using 3 manure directly and 4 rot and 3/4 of a single use of super growth formula I know it is meant to be a wormwood healing item but that isn't reason why it should be this bad for crop farming I think because it is wormwood only item it should also be the best single use fertiliser I think it should have stats of 6 uses of bucket of poop 3 uses of super growth formula and 12 rot While this does sound way too powerful you have to keep in mind that non character specific super growth formula and bucket of poop are still better that this and are cheaper Another problem is the wurts fertilizzzer Which needs 1 manure 2 nitre and 1 mosquito sacks It has the the effect of 1.5 manure, 1.5 rot and 3/8 of a single use of super growth formula Or 2.5 manure 2.5 rot and 5/8 of a single use of super growth formula if you have the perk wich makes you better at using them I have no idea why it costs 2 nitre when it doesn't even have power of 2 rot by default (I compare nitre to rot because it is used for the growth formula aspect because of acid rain causes wormwood to bloom and it causes nitre ponds in caves) It is character exclusive fertiliser that is just plain bad It should be at least as good as 3 manure, 3 rot and 3/4 of a growth formula by default or 5 manure 5 rot and 5/4 uses of super growth formula when upgraded with the skill If we want the character specific fertilisers to be good they need to be comparable with the non character specific fertilisers and not worse even if the non character specific fertilisers are extremely potent 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169999-character-specific-fertilisers-arent-good/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 The Wormwood fertilizer should be even better because of the fact that you're choosing to use it on plants instead of yourself. That's a decent amount of healing that you could have used, in exchange for 2 large potatoes and 2 large asparagus if I'm doing that math right. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169999-character-specific-fertilisers-arent-good/#findComment-1853534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojmaowo Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Radicaljoe said: The Wormwood fertilizer should be even better because of the fact that you're choosing to use it on plants instead of yourself. That's a decent amount of healing that you could have used, in exchange for 2 large potatoes and 2 large asparagus if I'm doing that math right. It should be exactly 12 giants of giants which consume multiple nutrient types (tomaroot and watermelon) 6 giants of any low nutrients consuming crops and 3 giants of high consumption crops Also I can't make it better unless the fertiliser bypases the soil max which is 12.5 rot, 12.5 manure and 3.125 super growth formula uses worth But having wormwoods fertiliser bypass the cap sounds interesting Edited March 9 by Mojmaowo Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169999-character-specific-fertilisers-arent-good/#findComment-1853538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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