Issues Caused by the Crystal-Crested Buzzard and Opinions & Suggestions for the Developers

[Debruh]

10 hours ago, Pruinae said:

You can downgrade game versions if you want, no need for despair. Google "How to Play Old Versions of Steam Games". You could even go to an update before Hostile Takeover, but idk the consequences of going back that far on a world so

Make sure to create backups of your worlds before messing with anything file related. It's also best to avoid messing with these things if you are on a bad headspace, as that may make mistakes more likely.

Pretty sure you can also just stop steam from updating games automatically, even do it by game

[CrimsonStrider]

@adminaaassh

(you mentioned them)Wildfires off: you don't miss out on anything. 

Buzzards off: you don't miss anything. 

The game is a survival one. Players have, on their own accord, created this megabase mentality. Cool, do what you want. I can't help point out, this game is not designed to be a painting canvas. In that sense, it's going to have defects. If you want a beautiful canvas for your exquisite painting then perhaps you shouldn't be shopping in the wrong store.  

 

This game does not put you into a constant state of alertness and mental exhaustion on default settings.

You make it sound like console command is cheating but all the mods I see on bilibili aren't. 

Its fine if you don't like the new stuff, and since my question wasn't answered I cant comment on whether I might change my opinion next update regarding buzzards, but at this moment your opinion seems incredibly hyperbolic.

 

 

[adminaaassh]

3 hours ago, CrimsonStrider said:

@adminaaassh

(you mentioned them)Wildfires off: you don't miss out on anything. 

Buzzards off: you don't miss anything. 

The game is a survival one. Players have, on their own accord, created this megabase mentality. Cool, do what you want. I can't help point out, this game is not designed to be a painting canvas. In that sense, it's going to have defects. If you want a beautiful canvas for your exquisite painting then perhaps you shouldn't be shopping in the wrong store.  

 

This game does not put you into a constant state of alertness and mental exhaustion on default settings.

You make it sound like console command is cheating but all the mods I see on bilibili aren't. 

Its fine if you don't like the new stuff, and since my question wasn't answered I cant comment on whether I might change my opinion next update regarding buzzards, but at this moment your opinion seems incredibly hyperbolic.

 

 

I think I’ve already made my point very clearly in my post. If you only play short-term worlds, then please take the time to carefully read what I’ve written. Do you actually know what late-game and ultra-late-game saves look like?(And may I ask—did you see the metaphor I mentioned? Did you notice what I said about chain reactions, and how playing the game with players of different skill levels can trigger all kinds of cascading effects?And did you understand this point as well: this game is not an empty arena where one person simply fights one creature. It’s a complex system. It’s a game that has already become a solid high-rise building, not an empty construction site where you can just add whatever you want without consequences)

This is not about loot. It’s about whether long-term players are still able to experience new content at all. The developers have already added more than enough junk mechanics. Are you saying that if the developers continue to design only for short-term players, then long-term players should just accept that ten or twenty future updates’ worth of new content will be completely unplayable—unless they turn off game settings? Or resort to using console commands and effectively cheating?

I’ve already talked about all of this in my post.

You might think what I’m saying isn’t important—but I think you should actually look at the comment sections under those videos. Observe them. Summarize them. Look at how players are reacting. Don’t just rely on how you feel—look at how others are responding. Those reactions exist for a reason.

Why do so many people host modded servers in the game lobby? There’s a reason for that. It’s not because the developers’ designs are so good—it’s because the foundation of the game itself is strong. If the game didn’t have expansions, if it didn’t give out free skins, if there weren’t AFK skin-farming servers keeping people logged in, the game’s popularity would drop dramatically.

At the same time, you can also try to understand the phenomena I mentioned and think about why these things are happening. The player base is already shrinking. On the English wiki, when new items are added, most of the updates now only include basic numerical data.

Do you know how many people watched the developers’ livestream a few days ago? Fewer than 200 people stayed to watch the entire one-hour stream. Isn’t that already enough to illustrate the problem?

If you want a more precise analogy, I would say this game is like a singer who has already lost their popularity. This singer was once incredibly talented, creating songs across many different styles. But now, most updates only focus on a single style, catering to a single audience—and many of the melodies are basically the same as songs they wrote before (the developers’ code reuse problem is extremely serious).

Do you know what some of the harshest things people say on our side are? When chatting with others, some people say that the developers don’t usually do much work, and when it’s finally time to work, they rely on copying and pasting old code to drastically reduce their workload. A huge portion of the remaining work is then dumped onto the music designers and artists.

Of course, you don’t have to believe what I’m saying. But if they’re willing, they could carefully ask the deep Chinese player community about these points—such as wiki authors, or even the newly appointed Klei Ambassadors in China.

https://forums.kleientertainment.com/ambassador-list/

Edited December 21, 2025 by adminaaassh

[AliceShiki]

6 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

Of course, you don’t have to believe what I’m saying. But if they’re willing, they could carefully ask the deep Chinese player community about these points—such as wiki authors, or even the newly appointed Klei Ambassadors in China.

Irrelevant. Klei has a dedicated forum for feedback. They don't need to care about people posting comments in videos or whatever.

Just tell people to come to the forums and give feedback in a constructive manner. It's not Klei's job to go out of their way to seek feedback, they have better things to do in their work hours.

Videos are only useful to Klei if they are showcasing a specific problem/bug, otherwise they're basically worthless, and so are the comments. Nobody has time to watch opinion videos and read comments in their work hours. The forums are simply a better tool for that.

Edited December 21, 2025 by AliceShiki

[adminaaassh]

3 hours ago, AliceShiki said:

Irrelevant. Klei has a dedicated forum for feedback. They don't need to care about people posting comments in videos or whatever.

Just tell people to come to the forums and give feedback in a constructive manner. It's not Klei's job to go out of their way to seek feedback, they have better things to do in their work hours.

Videos are only useful to Klei if they are showcasing a specific problem/bug, otherwise they're basically worthless, and so are the comments. Nobody has time to watch opinion videos and read comments in their work hours. The forums are simply a better tool for that.

To be honest, I’m not very willing to keep replying. I’ve been on the forum for quite a long time, and I already have a fairly clear impression of some of the active users there. Your arguments, in my view, usually don’t have much logical structure and are mostly emotional expressions.

I rely on AI translation to communicate on the forum, which adds an extra step and makes things rather troublesome. I don’t think it’s worth my time to respond to questions that lack logical coherence. However, I do think AI can help answer your questions, and its responses are quite reasonable.

If you choose to continue replying to me, I will pass your attitude and arguments to AI and respond based on its answers—that will save time. Rest assured, I won’t add any specific prompts to steer the AI toward my own position, nor will I pick out a single sentence and exaggerate it to negate everything you’ve said.

Also, the forum has a block function—you’re free to block me, which might be beneficial for both of us.
Finally, thank you for your reply, and I wish you a pleasant life.

 

 

Edited December 22, 2025 by adminaaassh

[CrimsonStrider]

9 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

Do you actually know what late-game and ultra-late-game

Late game and ultra late game have very little meaning. Late game to one person might mean rift content. To another x amount of days, and to another x amount of effort put into decorating their world.

9 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

Did you notice what I said about chain reactions, and how playing the game with players of different skill levels can trigger all kinds of cascading effects?

That is, in my opinion, one aspect of the game. Learning to be aware of how others impact a world. 

If your world is a super expensive sports car and you invite someone with a learner's permit to experience it, its on you if they crash.

9 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

experience new content at all

The new content is packaged with consequences to unlocking it. 

9 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

Or resort to using console commands and effectively cheating?

What I see on Bilibili is already several steps beyond cheating.

9 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

Look at how players are reacting

Why would going through entitled whining make me suddenly see things clearly? 

10 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

Do you know what some of the harshest things people say on our side are?

Probably Klei SB this Klei TMD that. Don't sugar coat what those comment sections tend to look like.

2 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

 

2 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

To be honest, I’m not very willing to keep replying to you

This is the first time I've noticed your posts. Aliceshiki might have a different opinion, but going through your post is incredibly annoying.

I don't even want to reply because it feels like you're just hoping people will agree with you or not bother arguing because of how much needs to be addressed. 

It's even more tedious to reply on mobile.

90% of it is exaggeration and rhetorical questions.

Maybe stop using AI.  Try baidu translate and speak simply. Your posts make you sound annoying, and I cant tell if its the AI or you.

[adminaaassh]

47 minutes ago, CrimsonStrider said:

Late game and ultra late game have very little meaning. Late game to one person might mean rift content. To another x amount of days, and to another x amount of effort put into decorating their world.

Who told you it’s not meaningful? For a sandbox game, everyone should be able to choose the way they want to play. The game has an endless mode—you should know that. Why do you think the developers added this mode in the first place?

In my view, when I talk about “long-term play,” I mean saves that last for several thousand days, even tens of thousands of days. Some players genuinely enjoy playing this way. Sure, from a streaming perspective, Don’t Starve after thousands of days might not be very entertaining to watch, but for individual players, this is exactly where the fun lies.

It’s just like playing a very long-term vanilla save in Minecraft. For the player themselves, that experience is the enjoyment.

47 minutes ago, CrimsonStrider said:

That is, in my opinion, one aspect of the game. Learning to be aware of how others impact a world. 

If your world is a super expensive sports car and you invite someone with a learner's permit to experience it, its on you if they crash.

So what you’re saying is that, in the late game, there are a dozen garbage trucks parked next to your sports car, and you’re forced to make all kinds of strange and absurd drifting maneuvers just to steer your sports car around them?

47 minutes ago, CrimsonStrider said:

The new content is packaged with consequences to unlocking it. 

So what you’re saying is that, in the late game, there are a dozen garbage trucks parked next to your sports car, and you’re forced to make all kinds of strange and absurd drifting maneuvers just to steer your sports car around them?

47 minutes ago, CrimsonStrider said:

What I see on Bilibili is already several steps beyond cheating.

The consequences are too severe, they’re worth fixing, and they also expose problems with the developers themselves.

47 minutes ago, CrimsonStrider said:

Why would going through entitled whining make me suddenly see things clearly? 

Don’t label things you don’t understand as cheating.

47 minutes ago, CrimsonStrider said:

Probably Klei SB this Klei TMD that. Don't sugar coat what those comment sections tend to look like.

Don’t worry—my observations are worthy of my own judgment and of the amount of time I’ve spent in the game. What you see is not the whole picture. I talk with group members, I observe the comments sections, and there are many, many complaints out there. Why do you think I bothered to summarize all of this?

47 minutes ago, CrimsonStrider said:

Late game and ultra late game have very little meaning. Late game to one person might mean rift content. To another x amount of days, and to another x amount of effort put into decorating their world.

That is, in my opinion, one aspect of the game. Learning to be aware of how others impact a world. 

If your world is a super expensive sports car and you invite someone with a learner's permit to experience it, its on you if they crash.

The new content is packaged with consequences to unlocking it. 

What I see on Bilibili is already several steps beyond cheating.

Why would going through entitled whining make me suddenly see things clearly? 

Probably Klei SB this Klei TMD that. Don't sugar coat what those comment sections tend to look like.

This is the first time I've noticed your posts. Aliceshiki might have a different opinion, but going through your post is incredibly annoying.

I don't even want to reply because it feels like you're just hoping people will agree with you or not bother arguing because of how much needs to be addressed. 

It's even more tedious to reply on mobile.

90% of it is exaggeration and rhetorical questions.

Maybe stop using AI.  Try baidu translate and speak simply. Your posts make you sound annoying, and I cant tell if its the AI or you.

正好，看来你是国人啊，那我就不客气了，我说了这些就是开发者的问题，你到底游玩过多少小时的游戏？你了解游戏有些什么内容吗？你看过游戏大厅有哪些人用哪些模组干些什么事情吗？你加入过那些主播的群吗？还有我提到的科雷大使链接，你看看那些科雷大使呀，进他们的群，看看他们对这些东西什么态度啊？另外我告诉你，中文Wiki上面有qq群链接，你可以尝试加一下，看看那些wiki大佬对这游戏是什么态度，不加也行，他们的群组里有管理员，点击管理员的头像就可以联系到他们个人，你也可以去询问一下。你知道这个游戏可以玩万天吗？你知道万天存档有哪些可能出现的问题吗？你知道一个游戏它开服务器需要多少花费吗？你知道一些模组能开一些模组不能开吗？你了解一些能让游戏的崩溃的bug到现在都没人上报吗？我发现你似乎故意漏到我说的那些东西，比如说我提到了wiki的作者，比如说我提到了科雷大使们的态度？如果你看视频的话那么你看一下那些视频里那些 Up主的态度，不要拿你那浅显的观察断章取义的文字来恶心我？好吗？

 

本人不才4000小时，主玩长期存档，（当然了如果你想要八千多小时一万多小时对这款游戏失望的大佬，我也可以帮你找到，然后问他们要到他们的时长截图）平时的乐趣就是通过游戏大厅然后服务器简介添加各种各样的群聊，然后游玩。我清楚的看到这些人的态度，我也很清楚他们为什么生气，以及内在逻辑是什么？噢，对我必须得承认，这游戏绝大部分都是短期玩家，所以我加的大部分群里对于秃鹫，还是没那么多讨论度的，这一点我得承认，但是长期存档，深度玩家甚至你看那些up的更新视频，你看看他们视频里的内容，你看他们有多少人在夸这坨东西的？这些东西都被你吃了吗？动动你的小手，搜索一下视频内容，看一下饥荒万天，思考一下，为什么有人对这些东西感到无聊和恶心？另外我用ai翻译就是为了更好的和别人交流啊，我不懂英文啊，ai翻译的更好啊，就这么简单，你的意思是反馈都不许用ai？用谷歌翻译或者百度翻译，我告诉你那些翻译都不如ai翻译来的好， Ai翻译的更为准确

活在自己的世界里，反馈帖的那些内容被你吃了是吗？你觉得他们都是低劣的愤怒的傻逼吗？你懂科雷以前更新过哪些夸张又恶心的东西吗？你知道当时温迪技能树刚重做的时候，玩家是哪些态度吗？论坛怎么样了？
 

烂完！锐评「来自域外」的糜烂设计！总设计师杰森的劣疾傲病！｜言讨声罚系列＆第二期_哔哩哔哩bilibili_饥荒

一场滋生傲慢的温床，一间流溢丑恶的茧房——科雷论坛_哔哩哔哩bilibili_饥荒联机版

看看这两个视频吧，这些只是冰山一角我说真的，真的不要来恶心我。本来就已经被官方的游戏恶心了几个月不想玩了，我对这个游戏的热爱都快磨没了

但凡你搜一搜几万几千天的存档比比皆是，这是正常的原版生存的存档天数，如果你是那种挂机服务器，甚至能有20万天，有些人就喜欢玩那么久，你管得着吗？有没有意义不是你决定的，是玩的人决定的，你懂这个道理吗？
 

Edited December 22, 2025 by adminaaassh

[adminaaassh]

我告诉你sb和tmd是中文的缩写，国外没有这个英文单词，另外评论区是没有这两样东西的，因为哔哩哔哩是有脏话检测的这种东西的缩写和全称都是打不出来的，所以你在总结些什么东西啊？你看到的东西是你臆想的吧？

顺道我话放这里，百度翻译不如谷歌翻译，最好使用ai翻译，不然你翻译的那些英文可能没人看得懂

 

Edited December 22, 2025 by adminaaassh

[CrimsonStrider]

1 hour ago, adminaaassh said:

Who told you it’s not meaningful?

Your translation is incorrect.

1 hour ago, adminaaassh said:

So what you’re saying is that, in the late game, there are a dozen garbage trucks parked next to your sports car, and you’re forced to make all kinds of strange and absurd drifting maneuvers just to steer your sports car around them?

The difference between what you said and what I said is, a bad player ruining something because theyre bad is not opinion. You considering these changes to be garbage trucks is opinion.

To some, theyre fun obstacles, and instead having a boring drive with a super car we get to have fun trying to drift around all these cool new things.

1 hour ago, adminaaassh said:

The consequences are too severe, they’re worth fixing, and they also expose problems with the developers themselves.

How is having a ruins station at the portal with spawned in materials fixing new content? Or teleporting everywhere with signs? Or console commands? Or having bearger bins day 30? Or 6 deer eyes day 20?

1 hour ago, adminaaassh said:

Don’t label things you don’t understand as cheating

It's cheating. Its way closer to cheating than someone spawning in a pearl with commands for decorative purposes. 

1 hour ago, adminaaassh said:

my observations are worthy of my own judgment 

Meh. I'll bite my tongue for now.

42 minutes ago, adminaaassh said:

顺道我话放这里，百度翻译不如谷歌翻译，最好使用ai翻译，不然你翻译的那些英文可能没人看得懂

The AI is making you sound very annoying and your posts way too long. I am surprised at how natural the writing is, though. For me its hard to know if the personality in the writing is you or not.

Baidu Translate sucks, I know.

I don't know if you're writing all that in Chinese or if you're writing much less and AI bloats it. That's why I suggested Baidu as an option.

To be clear, I do appreciate you trying, even if I disagree.

Edit: You added more to your reply after I posted this. I will look at that later.

Edited December 22, 2025 by CrimsonStrider

[adminaaassh]

50 minutes ago, CrimsonStrider said:

Your translation is incorrect.

The difference between what you said and what I said is, a bad player ruining something because theyre bad is not opinion. You considering these changes to be garbage trucks is opinion.

To some, theyre fun obstacles, and instead having a boring drive with a super car we get to have fun trying to drift around all these cool new things.

How is having a ruins station at the portal with spawned in materials fixing new content? Or teleporting everywhere with signs? Or console commands? Or having bearger bins day 30? Or 6 deer eyes day 20?

It's cheating. Its way closer to cheating than someone spawning in a pearl with commands for decorative purposes. 

Meh. I'll bite my tongue for now.

The AI is making you sound very annoying and your posts way too long. I am surprised at how natural the writing is, though. For me its hard to know if the personality in the writing is you or not.

Baidu Translate sucks, I know.

I don't know if you're writing all that in Chinese or if you're writing much less and AI bloats it. That's why I suggested Baidu as an option.

To be clear, I do appreciate you trying, even if I disagree.

Edit: You added more to your reply after I posted this. I will look at that later.

谁告诉你我东西是用ai生成的？我的东西全是自己写的，然后让ai翻译的而已，我跟那个人说用ai回应他，是因为那个人的逻辑基本没有，和他多说一句话都算是浪费时间，但是他恶心我呀，所以把他的那些逻辑直接丢到a i里，让ai和他讲理就行了。我告诉你，我写的东西都是自己一点一点抠出来的，手敲打的慢，我一般都用语音输入，然后关于专有名词，我还得一个一个的去把英文复制过来，就像饥荒联机版的英文名称翻译成中文叫不要一起饿死，所以专有名词ai是翻译不出来的，他们不知道什么意思

我真的是服了你东西能看全一点吗？我的意思很明白了。

你觉得长是因为文本本来就是那么长，我都是靠语音输入的，我输入之后还要校对，还要把一些错别字更改，有专有名词，我还要把专有名词加进去，然后丢给ai，ai才能翻译的准确，我告诉你，因为语言的原因，这个论坛滤掉了99%的国人。要是他们真有懂中文的人在论坛接收消息的话，这个论坛能被中文淹了

 

 

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[AliceShiki]

5 hours ago, adminaaassh said:

Your arguments, in my view, usually don’t have much logical structure and are mostly emotional expressions.

Oh wow, that's a funny one, I wonder where that one came from... Perhaps because of the posts where I tell people to stop assuming that the enfranchised players are the majority in any game ever and remember that casual players are the vast majority (pure facts) or in the posts where I tell people to stop complaining too much about bug fixes (as in, telling people to stop being overly emotional about a video game issue being fixed).

Dunno, just food for thought, I guess.

Btw, attacking the person instead of the argument is a pretty well-known logical fallacy, it's called ad hominem, so uhn... Well, feel free to pretend that my posts aren't the logical ones here~

Edited December 22, 2025 by AliceShiki

[adminaaassh]

15 minutes ago, AliceShiki said:

Oh wow, that's a funny one, I wonder where that one came from... Perhaps because of the posts where I tell people to stop assuming that the enfranchised players are the majority in any game ever and remember that casual players are the vast majority (pure facts) or in the posts where I tell people to stop complaining too much about bug fixes (as in, telling people to stop being overly emotional about a video game issue being fixed).

Dunno, just food for thought, I guess.

Btw, attacking the person instead of the argument is a pretty well-known logical fallacy, it's called ad hominem, so uhn... Well, feel free to pretend that my posts aren't the logical ones here~

Because I personally feel that continuing this conversation with you doesn’t have much meaning. Your arguments seem to be largely based on personal subjective views while ignoring some basic facts. But that’s fine—my thoughts and opinions aren’t important, and you don’t need to take them to heart.

I think we both need to understand one thing: when someone stubbornly believes in certain ideas, it’s very hard to have a real dialogue with them. That applies to both you and me. So I don’t think there should be much further interaction between us. I believe my logic is well-grounded, and I assume you also believe you’re right.

For me, the most important thing is that I didn’t come to this forum to argue with people, but to give feedback—and above all, to make sure the developers see it. That is my primary goal. To maintain harmony on the forum, I suggest that we stop engaging with each other.

Aside from bug-related issues, I’ve also seen you discussing things in many other threads. From the way you reply, I can roughly tell what kind of person you are, and I don’t think there’s much for us to talk about. Still, I’m willing to give you one suggestion: you can copy what I’ve said into an AI and ask it, in a neutral way, whether there are problems, mistakes, or whether there’s nothing of value at all. You can also put your own logic into the AI and see how it responds. I don’t think you noticed the screenshot I shared earlier—the AI’s response was fairly neutral and already addressed part of the issue.

Once again, thank you for your reply, and once again, I suggest that you block me.

[AliceShiki]

28 minutes ago, adminaaassh said:

Because I personally feel that continuing this conversation with you doesn’t have much meaning. Your arguments seem to be largely based on personal subjective views while ignoring some basic facts. But that’s fine—my thoughts and opinions aren’t important, and you don’t need to take them to heart.

I think we both need to understand one thing: when someone stubbornly believes in certain ideas, it’s very hard to have a real dialogue with them. That applies to both you and me. So I don’t think there should be much further interaction between us. I believe my logic is well-grounded, and I assume you also believe you’re right.

For me, the most important thing is that I didn’t come to this forum to argue with people, but to give feedback—and above all, to make sure the developers see it. That is my primary goal. To maintain harmony on the forum, I suggest that we stop engaging with each other.

Aside from bug-related issues, I’ve also seen you discussing things in many other threads. From the way you reply, I can roughly tell what kind of person you are, and I don’t think there’s much for us to talk about. Still, I’m willing to give you one suggestion: you can copy what I’ve said into an AI and ask it, in a neutral way, whether there are problems, mistakes, or whether there’s nothing of value at all. You can also put your own logic into the AI and see how it responds. I don’t think you noticed the screenshot I shared earlier—the AI’s response was fairly neutral and already addressed part of the issue.

Once again, thank you for your reply, and once again, I suggest that you block me.

Still waiting for the reply to my argument instead of the ad hominem, btw~

[adminaaassh]

9 minutes ago, AliceShiki said:

Still waiting for the reply to my argument instead of the ad hominem, btw~

Please rest assured, what I said is not a personal attack, even though you may feel that it is. What I’m expressing is simply my genuine thoughts. If you have questions for me, you can take screenshots of your post, your opinions, and the content of my post, and give them to an AI to evaluate. I believe an AI can provide a relatively neutral judgment. I also believe the AI may respond better than I can. Thank you for your reply.

If you think this counts as a personal attack, then let me put it this way: I am a stubborn person, and I stubbornly believe in certain viewpoints. 

Edited December 22, 2025 by adminaaassh

[AliceShiki]

1 hour ago, adminaaassh said:

Please rest assured, what I said is not a personal attack, even though you may feel that it is. What I’m expressing is simply my genuine thoughts.

"You are someone who doesn't argue logically" is actually attacking the person, not the argument. This isn't really up to debate.

It's a classic logical fallacy, you don't know how to counter someone's argument, so you attack the person in a way to discredit their argument without addressing the argument itself. I'm just calling you out on it. You pretending that you don't know what it is that you are doing won't change that fact.

To give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe the translator software you are using is confusing "attacking the person" with "insulting the person", which is not really equivalent in this case. You are simply trying to discredit my argument by attacking me instead of my actual argument, which is a logical fallacy.

Hence why I'm still waiting for the actual response to my point.

[adminaaassh]

19 minutes ago, AliceShiki said:

"You are someone who doesn't argue logically" is actually attacking the person, not the argument. This isn't really up to debate.

It's a classic logical fallacy, you don't know how to counter someone's argument, so you attack the person in a way to discredit their argument without addressing the argument itself. I'm just calling you out on it. You pretending that you don't know what it is that you are doing won't change that fact.

To give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe the translator software you are using is confusing "attacking the person" with "insulting the person", which is not really equivalent in this case. You are simply trying to discredit my argument by attacking me instead of my actual argument, which is a logical fallacy.

Hence why I'm still waiting for the actual response to my point.

Please copy and paste or screenshot my entire article and send it to an AI, then ask the AI your questions. Ask whether this article truly has no value, which parts are reasonable, and which parts—if any—are incorrect. I believe the AI can answer your questions very well.

Finally, thank you again for your reply.

[Cassielu]

9 hours ago, AliceShiki said:

Irrelevant. Klei has a dedicated forum for feedback.

Until some ones used completely illogical pestering to drive away those who were supposed to be here to giving feedback.

[AliceShiki]

3 hours ago, Cassielu said:

Until some ones used completely illogical pestering to drive away those who were supposed to be here to giving feedback.

You mean like the troll that pretends that ChatGPT is useful and is purposefully pretending to be unaware of their own logical fallacies?

Can't say much would be lost by losing someone who starts openly trolling on the moment someone disagrees with them on their view that video comments are relevant, but rest assured that Klei doesn't really ban people for this kind of light trolling, so nothing really will come out of this. The other person just made it clear to anyone looking that they're arguing in bad faith and can't really counter others' arguments, that's all.

Also... Calling someone out on their nonsense is not "illogical pestering", it's just pointing out their bad faith actions, really. If they really wanted to stop interacting with me, they would have just blocked me or simply refused to reply to my posts calling them out instead of blabbering nonsense about AI that is obviously trolling. It's pretty clear that they just want an emotional response here.

Edited December 22, 2025 by AliceShiki

[Lovens]

On 12/21/2025 at 11:32 AM, Debruh said:

Pretty sure you can also just stop steam from updating games automatically, even do it by game

Hey could you please elaborate on this if you can? I tried to find this setting and there only three options. One is "Update immediately whenever the update is available". Another is "Let Steam decide when to update" - uhhh, no thanks. Finally, the last one was "Update only when game is launched" that's also not what I want. I just want the updates off until I myself press "Update" on the game manually. But I couldn't find such option. Brief googling suggested going offline to avoid the update being downloaded/installed and then launching the game. But it won't work with DST since it won't let me access all of my worlds that were made in online ode.

I know this because earlier today my Internet turned off for a bit and DST switched to offline mode when it couldn't find Internet connection. After restarting my router and getting the Internet to work again I was surprised to see DST still stay in offline mode and unable to launch any of my worlds. I couldn't find any button to bring DST back into online mode and I didn't want to close my game window I had opened since Thursday before the latest update. I panicked thinking that's it and I would need to close my game to be able to launch my world again. But eventually I managed to fix it by going to the Mods menu and pressing "Save changes" without actually changing anything. This made the game unresponsive with the black screen for good two minutes and I thought it was about to crash but then it went back to the main menu and it was online again. 

I wonder if closing the game, then going offline and launching it again would work for disabling the update. Then maybe I could bring it to online mode with the same trick I described. But I don't want to take any risks and accidentally have the update installed against my will so guess for now I will keep my game window opened. My computer has no rest now and is forced to have this sh*t running 24/7 just so I don't receive a mandatory update I don't want and never asked for. 

Edited December 23, 2025 by Lovens

[Bumber64]

21 hours ago, Lovens said:

Brief googling suggested going offline to avoid the update being downloaded/installed and then launching the game. But it won't work with DST since it won't let me access all of my worlds that were made in online ode.

You can reconnect the internet as soon as Steam launches the game, just in time for login. Changing mod settings will let you try to login again. The only thing you shouldn't do is launch the game while connected.

A saner option is to figure out Steam depot. (Or maybe you can move the game folder out of the Steam directory?)

Relatedly, using the depot allows you to download only the changed files between updates, which is much faster. IDK why it seems to basically redownload the entire game by default each update.

https://steamdb.info/depot/322331/manifests/
steam://open/console (paste this in your browser or create a desktop shortcut)
download_depot 322330 322331 <manifest_id_of_update>
(The result ends up in Steam/SteamApps/content/.)

If you add your current manifest ID after the update one, you'll only download changed files. I just save the command in a text file and use the ID from last time. Only useful if you plan on updating your separate installation.

Edited December 24, 2025 by Bumber64

[NautilusNautilu]

Good to know. I think I will change my policy. 

[finmat92]

Oh my god they destroy all structures with their flames, they seems invincible, they fly, their flames are just too strong, you get cold and you're going to die due to freezing, they're infinite, they always land near me. How can i get rid of them? how can i handle them? how can i beat them? my weapons seem useless, my entire army just died, trap are useless, what can i do? how do i solve this problem?

That's how you solve all problems related to these fkg birds:

 

 

Ah btw happy new year!

Edited January 3 by finmat92

[Cruvimaster]

I've gotten used to these mobs. I can coexist with them while taking similar precautions as I would with wildfires or fire hounds.

[Dingle]

The last update fixed a bug that always forced you to fight about 30 of them.

Not nearly as bad now. I still wish they gave a little warning period when they first got in your area, though. You can still miss a few from the first wave, and they will obliterate everything.

[Well-met]

Having properly experienced lunar buzzards I will say I'm fine with their mechanics however there should be a chance for the wave to just skip altogether and then go on cooldown again. Lunar buzzards shouldnt be as persistent/predictable as hound attacks are.

 

Edited January 5 by Well-met