Elding Spear material cost should be cheaper, 2 volt goat horns are too much!

[HeatAndRun]

Elding Spear is surely a fun weapon to use. But the problem is the spear itself costs whopping 2 volt goat horns as ingredients. Without construction amulet, using elding spear before Moon Storm event is not worth it. Why don't we just lower the cost of the spear to one volt goat horn? 2 Horns requirements only put the elding spear in the very niche position between morning star and dark sword.

[remden]

This would remove the only way to dupe volt goat horns though

[Just Ragnar]

It currently has the perk of being a way to duplicate volt goat horns en masse later on, if you have green gems to spare. If you stop by lunar you can set up a volt goat farm in the first autumn, but even then, it's a lot easier to get two volt goat horns than living logs, and that's not even that hard.

[AliceShiki]

The only thing that annoys me about the spear is the fact you need to interact with late-game content for a skill that isn't an affinity skill... It feels weird.

I agree that 2 Volt Goat Horns is a lot though. But I feel like that is obtainable enough.

[Popian]

9 hours ago, HeatAndRun said:

using elding spear before Moon Storm event is not worth it

A Morning Star can outlast it while reaching a meaningful damage threshold if you take only melee attacks into consideration. The uncharged Elding Spear is better mainly for its reusable dash for feathers and aoe and sometimes when its higher damage is relevant.

[BarHot 857]

Make a cheap goat farm; the only cost are some walls, 1 anenemy and 1 flute.

[IAmAFurrz]

150 uses, not nearly enough dmg for how costly it is (on average 8 damn goats per 1 spear), CD being 4 damn seconds is dogshit, and whenever you re-equip it klei decided players shouldnt be allowed to use it only for the dash bc that'd be broken so we have a dogshit weapon with awful costs that cant even be a fun support weapon. most you can do with it is the electrocute thing but at that point just use the morning star

[AliceShiki]

1 hour ago, IAmAFurrz said:

150 uses

Well, the charged one (which is the only useful one) is 200 uses.

And I imagine the idea is to keep the weapon around forever with the Repair skill... Essentially making it a Ham Bat that never spoils, deals Planar Damage, and has Shock dmg and extra dmg to Wet targets.

1 hour ago, IAmAFurrz said:

CD being 4 damn seconds is dogshit,

Similarly, the cooldown is only 1.5s when Charged, so it's not really bad.

Essentially, I think nobody will disagree with you when you say that the normal Elding Spear is worthless... It was probably made to be worthless on purpose. I don't think the devs ever expected anyone to use the non-charged Elding Spear. It's absolutely worthless without being charged.

[IAmAFurrz]

6 hours ago, AliceShiki said:

Well, the charged one (which is the only useful one) is 200 uses.

And I imagine the idea is to keep the weapon around forever with the Repair skill... Essentially making it a Ham Bat that never spoils, deals Planar Damage, and has Shock dmg and extra dmg to Wet targets.

 

6 hours ago, AliceShiki said:

Essentially, I think nobody will disagree with you when you say that the normal Elding Spear is worthless...

thats the point of the discussion, to make it not literally worthless. like make it do SOMETHING if the price is that much, like make the CD upon re-equipping be 0 (same goes for the shield) bc thats my biggest gripe, it cant even be a dash on command ability while you use another weapon so its got 0 worthwhile

6 hours ago, AliceShiki said:

It was probably made to be worthless on purpose.

and it shouldnt be. the problem with a lot of skills is that they are MADE to be useless bc theyre stepstones but id like them to be useful at least in progression that theyre in, not like blatantly 'this skill is for crafting **** in a bucket but you cant actually use it, the skill thats after that is what makes it broken'. essentially going from useless too way too good that it's all a wigfrid needs is stupid

[Tranoze]

There are 2 horn in the spear though. That also explain it's electrical power up, as one is negative one is positive it will deal electrical damage when it touches target.

Edited December 10, 2025 by Tranoze

[hyoton123]

Normal elding spear is okay for getting feathers (useful for songs and I guess the bad saddle), gap clearing and anything that can be aggro’d by a ranged dash. It’s more of a tool than a weapon.

[AliceShiki]

12 hours ago, IAmAFurrz said:

 

thats the point of the discussion, to make it not literally worthless. like make it do SOMETHING if the price is that much, like make the CD upon re-equipping be 0 (same goes for the shield) bc thats my biggest gripe, it cant even be a dash on command ability while you use another weapon so its got 0 worthwhile

and it shouldnt be. the problem with a lot of skills is that they are MADE to be useless bc theyre stepstones but id like them to be useful at least in progression that theyre in, not like blatantly 'this skill is for crafting **** in a bucket but you cant actually use it, the skill thats after that is what makes it broken'. essentially going from useless too way too good that it's all a wigfrid needs is stupid

Ah, yeah, I don't disagree that it's weird to have some skills that are absolutely useless, only to have the upgrade make it become amazing.

I feel like what could be a possible fix for this would be to make normal and Charged Elding Spears be the exact same, but Charged having the Planar Damage.

It would still be an upgrade and worth the Skill Point, but would make the normal one still be a buffed Ham Bat, which should be pretty worthwhile.

Edited December 10, 2025 by AliceShiki

[IAmAFurrz]

10 hours ago, AliceShiki said:

but would make the normal one still be a buffed Ham Bat, which should be pretty worthwhile

exactly, which is why the request for making the spear's cost be reduced is very valid (also just make it last longer too)

[slendyproject]

Goat horns should be a guaranteed drop. I dont understand what is the value in wasting the players time. It feels like a crutch to extend playtime for no reason that DST too often falls into.

[CrimsonStrider]

Her spear is always worth having for the dash alone. Even if it's not the charged version.

2 horns is fine.

Voltgoats could be a little more generous, but doesnt need to be a 1:1 ratio.

Maybe from 25% to 33%? At 25% I am more often getting no horns per herd, and having a higher chance of getting 1 per herd and if I'm lucky, 2, seems fair enough.