performance issue, possible cause of the bug

[choppe]

I have an AMD Ryzen 5 7500F AM5 processor, but on a 1000 cycle I have 20 fps with drops to 8 fps. At the same time, I have played for 900 hours already and I can say with confidence why the fps is so bad (besides Unity)) 1. conveyor rails, they use their own principle of transferring objects (unlike gas and water pipes), and they also overload the game with calculating the paths of movement of materials. Every time a rail is built or destroyed, it starts calculating the paths for each line on ALL planetoids again. The photo below shows that their optimization leaves much to be desired, it feels like they are not deactivated when moving between planetoids. 2. these are jet suits, the calculation of the path of duplicates becomes unlimited and sheer hell begins for your PC. Unfortunately, on one save I made both conveyors and jet suits for 12 duplicates and my game turned into 10 fps at the first speed of the game). in general, what is all this for. if this forum is not just for people who communicate with each other, but developers read it, then please pay attention to this, it really spoils the game. I remember how you released the optimization of gas and water pipes, and it really worked, but the conveyor rails remained. try to simplify the mechanics of moving materials like gas pipes. I understand that objects will move themselves without energy because of the conveyor bridge, but so what, maybe this will help win productivity, no one looks at this as a wow mechanic anymore. in general, I hope they notice this problem and solve it. by the way, with water and gas pipes there is nothing like in the photo

[cyberwarlord]

9 hours ago, choppe said:

I have an AMD Ryzen 5 7500F AM5 processor, but on a 1000 cycle I have 20 fps with drops to 8 fps. At the same time, I have played for 900 hours already and I can say with confidence why the fps is so bad (besides Unity)) 1. conveyor rails, they use their own principle of transferring objects (unlike gas and water pipes), and they also overload the game with calculating the paths of movement of materials. Every time a rail is built or destroyed, it starts calculating the paths for each line on ALL planetoids again. The photo below shows that their optimization leaves much to be desired, it feels like they are not deactivated when moving between planetoids. 2. these are jet suits, the calculation of the path of duplicates becomes unlimited and sheer hell begins for your PC. Unfortunately, on one save I made both conveyors and jet suits for 12 duplicates and my game turned into 10 fps at the first speed of the game). in general, what is all this for. if this forum is not just for people who communicate with each other, but developers read it, then please pay attention to this, it really spoils the game. I remember how you released the optimization of gas and water pipes, and it really worked, but the conveyor rails remained. try to simplify the mechanics of moving materials like gas pipes. I understand that objects will move themselves without energy because of the conveyor bridge, but so what, maybe this will help win productivity, no one looks at this as a wow mechanic anymore. in general, I hope they notice this problem and solve it. by the way, with water and gas pipes there is nothing like in the photo

Wait till your save files start taking up gigs of space...

[EricKlei]

Could you please attach your save file and your system specs? We keep a collection of late game saves to use while working on performance and your save would be a good addition. You might need to upload it externally (Google Drive etc.) depending on the size of the file since you're a new user.

[choppe]

1 hour ago, EricKlei said:

Не могли бы вы прикрепить файл сохранения и характеристики системы? Мы храним коллекцию сохранений из поздних игр, чтобы использовать их при работе над производительностью, и ваше сохранение стало бы хорошим дополнением. Возможно, вам придется загрузить его извне (с Google Диска и т. д.) в зависимости от размера файла, поскольку вы новый пользователь.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1iZpuMTbJJzSDM7B1iLSjtchafv8Oxaf3?usp=sharing

hello, I may have explained the situation around my situation poorly, but I sent you a link to the disk where my 2 saves are, the first is a fresh save with the latest dlc (photo from the post about it), and the second is very old, which did not even have a biobot update. I also added a couple of videos on both saves where it is quite clear what is being discussed. I hope it will be useful. I'm really thinking about buying an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D to play my old save a little more)

[JRup]

2 hours ago, EricKlei said:

We keep a collection of late game saves

You do?

Just kidding there. But it's still good to know.

 

(I can always re-upload my save too, I always get that stutter when building/deconstructing/disconnecting conveyor lines...)

[gigamoi]

11 hours ago, EricKlei said:

We keep a collection of late game saves to use while working on performance

Good to know. Is there a place where we can formally submit some? (I don't have any at the time but that's for future reference.)

 

(Also, you might consider this one if it's not already done. Sure, it's on a custom cluster but it's actually only 53200 tiles big, more than twice smaller than a Spaced Out classic style map, and it chugs.)

[EricKlei]

@choppeThanks for uploading the saves, they will be useful for general performance profiling. Regarding conduit rebuilding performance (not just rails) it's on our list of performance improvements to make but not sure when we'll get to it.

We don't have a place to submit saves for inclusion. I usually discover ones I want to include in bug reports that have something unique about them not covered in other saves. For example, we don't have a lot of late game saves from the two planet packs. One of choppe's saves is a Relica cluster with frosty mixed in, which makes it a great addition.

[choppe]

16 hours ago, EricKlei said:

@choppeThanks for uploading the saves, they will be useful for general performance profiling. Regarding conduit rebuilding performance (not just rails) it's on our list of performance improvements to make but not sure when we'll get to it.

We don't have a place to submit saves for inclusion. I usually discover ones I want to include in bug reports that have something unique about them not covered in other saves. For example, we don't have a lot of late game saves from the two planet packs. One of choppe's saves is a Relica cluster with frosty mixed in, which makes it a great addition.

thank you for your reply. I have only one small question for you, what is it?)did I miss something in the patches?)

[sakura_sk]

45 minutes ago, choppe said:

what is it?

Unused assets. They've been there.. since several years now. Diseases expanded mod uses them.

[choppe]

28 minutes ago, sakura_sk said:

Unused assets. Они лежат здесь... уже несколько лет. ses expanded mod uses them.

I haven't looked at this tab for a long time) It's interesting that this even has a translation. Well, I'll never use it because I play without mods)

[SGT_Imalas]

On 8/13/2025 at 9:04 PM, choppe said:

It's interesting that this even has a translation

Diseases Expanded (re)uses its animation, but the building itself is in fact from vanilla (unmodded spaced out) - its still defined in the code, but hidden from the build menu (similar to the deep fried steak from FPP)

you can also find traces of the hydrocactus, a water filtering plant, in the game

[EricKlei]

@choppe We have been using your save a lot for performance testing in U57, which is currently in beta. If you have time to check it out please let us know how you find the improvements.