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4 minutes ago, NexusMercer said:

As for the “exclusive” you want to see on the Crabpack page, Klei already revised the Proof of Purchase Item Code Information two years ago. Do you really think they would leave behind such an obvious handle? What could possibly need revising in a Proof of Purchase Item Code Information page that only had three sentences to begin with?

That means you don't have evidence. I can't really argue with something I can't confirm ever existed. 

5 minutes ago, RexySeven said:

That means you don't have evidence. I can't really argue with something I can't confirm ever existed. 

 

The only evidence I can find now is this: promotional pages for the Funko figures that came out before the Proof of Purchase Item Code Information was revised do have the "exclusive skin" label, while the Youtooz figures and the blind box figures sold in China that came out after that revision no longer have that label. After all, who would have thought Klei would do something like this?

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8 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Bottomless firepit being given to everyone was a spit in the face for all the early believers of DST, the people who got DST off the ground and made it the success it was today.

Hi, early believer of DST here who got it off the ground and made it the success it is today: I am fully in support of the Bottomless Firepit being made easily accessible to new players. That was a very good call on Klei's part and I am glad they no longer have skins that are truly available for one time only.

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13 hours ago, NexusMercer said:

Klei said that the exclusive skins were meant to serve as proof of purchase for players who bought the merchandise, and now you're telling me that the only thing that serves as "proof" is a tiny “proof of purchase” tag on the skin? Does that sound reasonable to you?

Considering "proof of purchase" means it proves you bought the merch, and you don't care about the merch, and they stopped producing the merch... It really doesn't actually matter, does it?

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23 minutes ago, lowercase skye said:

Hi, early believer of DST here who got it off the ground and made it the success it is today: I am fully in support of the Bottomless Firepit being made easily accessible to new players. That was a very good call on Klei's part and I am glad they no longer have skins that are truly available for one time only.

But why? 

5 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

But why? 

I bought DS and Klei later gave me DST for free as thanks for the support. IMO, nobody who didn't buy DS back in the day should be allowed to enjoy DST.

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3 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

But why? 

A large part of DST is centered around base building and has been for most of its life. It does not feel good or fair at all to have access to exclusive decorative options that other people can't get just because they didn't find out about the game early enough in its life.

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6 minutes ago, Bumber64 said:

I bought DS and Klei later gave me DST for free as thanks for the support. IMO, nobody who didn't buy DS back in the day should be allowed to enjoy DST.

Bottomless firepit is a purely cosmetic thank you to show that yes I was here supporting DST from the beginning. 

You can enjoy DST without it. 

It shows that klei doesn't really care about consumer loyalty. 

But meh, you are free to disagree but I speak the tru tru

4 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Bottomless firepit is a purely cosmetic thank you to show that yes I was here supporting DST from the beginning. 

You can enjoy DST without it. 

It shows that klei doesn't really care about consumer loyalty. 

But meh, you are free to disagree but I speak the tru tru

You're complaining about an alternate way to get a free thing you were given from buying another thing. It's on-topic, at least.

32 minutes ago, Bumber64 said:

You're complaining about an alternate way to get a free thing you were given from buying another thing. It's on-topic, at least.

Yeah because clearly 99% of people dont want the thing they actually are buying, they are buying the free thing which is the ingame item skin. 

Problem is people can resell the skin or the merch for crazy prices leading to all the problems we have now.

Bottomless pit couldn't be resold, it was the perfect thank you reward for beta supporters. Thats the difference.

1 hour ago, Bumber64 said:

Considering "proof of purchase" means it proves you bought the merch, and you don't care about the merch, and they stopped producing the merch... It really doesn't actually matter, does it?

Did Klei stop producing the Crabpack? In that case, I think I can come to terms with it. One-time skins really shouldn't be accepted — they’re completely meaningless.

If a skin has no way for new players to obtain it, then it definitely makes sense to open up an alternative way to get it.

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5 hours ago, NexusMercer said:

Did Klei stop producing the Crabpack? In that case, I think I can come to terms with it. One-time skins really shouldn't be accepted — they’re completely meaningless.

If a skin has no way for new players to obtain it, then it definitely makes sense to open up an alternative way to get it.

They also stopped making the mandrake plush as well, pretty sure there only adding skins where the irl item is no longer available to buy. 

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Honestly this is EXCLUSIVELY a PC Player issue, for console players a skins rarity value is worth absolutely nothing except MAYBE a few extra spools should you choose to unravel it (which I actually have unraveled higher tier versions of skins I already owned lower tier identical skins of.)

PC Players can buy/sell/trade skins through the skin trade market or whatever it’s called Meanwhile I’m over here destroying Heirlooms for the extra spool I get from it.

Skins that can’t be unraveled are even more WORTHLESS than that.. :lol:

However as it stands currently: Console players can spend 10,000 bolts (10 real $$$ in US Money) to buy the resurrected Crabbit Backpack skin, you can not earn bolts or weave this skin so it is one of the few skins in the game that are direct money purchases only….

But I’m certainly not paying 10$ for one measly in-game backpack skin when for 10$ I could buy both Shipwrecked AND Hamlet. Or be 5$ away from buying another copy of DST.

These type of real money skin purchases no matter how you look at it, feels dirty and scummy.. but luckily Most everything else can be weaved for spools.

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Speaking of exclusive (or non-exclusive) skins, this is what the big man JoeW had to say about it back in the day:
 

And more specifically, this part:
I understand the completionist idea, for sure. But, if we were to balance our items around that idea, it would be just way too limiting. You can still be a completionist if you like, but you have to accept that there will be some items you won't be able to get. There will definitely be items that are limited under certain conditions, like the tragic torch, beta firepit, pax items and proof of purchase items or even just stuff that is only available during special times, like... Halloween. I mean, just for example, of course. *ahem*

So yes indeed, merch skins were intended to be exclusive to purchasing merch and he was telling people to accept that restriction, this is as explicit as it gets if anyone had any doubts about the exclusiveness of said skins.

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1 hour ago, Kaioh said:

Speaking of exclusive (or non-exclusive) skins, this is what the big man JoeW had to say about it back in the day:
 

And more specifically, this part:
I understand the completionist idea, for sure. But, if we were to balance our items around that idea, it would be just way too limiting. You can still be a completionist if you like, but you have to accept that there will be some items you won't be able to get. There will definitely be items that are limited under certain conditions, like the tragic torch, beta firepit, pax items and proof of purchase items or even just stuff that is only available during special times, like... Halloween. I mean, just for example, of course. *ahem*

So yes indeed, merch skins were intended to be exclusive to purchasing merch and he was telling people to accept that restriction, this is as explicit as it gets if anyone had any doubts about the exclusiveness of said skins.

"all new items will come with a code as a proof of purchase. One thing a counterfeiter can't do is provide items in our game, we can. "

well you found out WHAT proof of purchase meant; it is only to prove to someone holding a plushie that the plushie is not counterfeit. it has bunk all to do with proving to strangers online that you bought a plush. good to know!

for sure though i think the conversation has gotten as far as it can without someone on staff offering clarification.at one point a member of staff did specify that there were indeed skins that were going to remain exclusive but the company has decided after a decade that some of the exclusive skins wouldnt be anymore.

 

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11 minutes ago, gaymime said:

"all new items will come with a code as a proof of purchase. One thing a counterfeiter can't do is provide items in our game, we can. "

well you found out WHAT proof of purchase meant; it is only to prove to someone holding a plushie that the plushie is not counterfeit. it has bunk all to do with proving to strangers online that you bought a plush. good to know!

for sure though i think the conversation has gotten as far as it can without someone on staff offering clarification.at one point a member of staff did specify that there were indeed skins that were going to remain exclusive but the company has decided after a decade that some of the exclusive skins wouldnt be anymore.

 

I was only addressing the question whether proof of purchase skins were exclusive or not. The future of exclusive skins is its own tangent, they have all received different treatments so far

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