kehun Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 1 minute ago, Echsrick said: so you are fine with wortox skill tree? with all its filler that litteraly does nothing for him but to waste skill points? yes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberSkink Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 4 minutes ago, Echsrick said: so you are fine with wortox skill tree? with all its filler that litteraly does nothing for him but to waste skill points? Do you want the short answer or the long answer? 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrusst Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 I mean after I grab the big skills that totally change my kit having inoffensive things I can use to finetune my naughty/nice alignment are at least decent. I won't call the filler ideal, but it doesn't bother me as much because there is still play where it enables me to commit hard to certain gimmicks. If the knapnet gets in I can toy around with the goofy things you can do with captured animals, I can free up a lot of points using poor living creatures as a souls battery cheaply and easily. Its still one of the stronger trees I've played for the psychotic things you can do with the capstone skills even if a limitation on the tree as a whole is its focus on capstone skills. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 There are some Wortox adjustments that haven't made it to the Beta branch. That's still being worked on so I can't provide details, but I do know that there are some things people have been providing feedback for that are still being addressed. Whether it makes it to the Thursday update or a hotfix shortly afterward, I won't know until we get there. 41 9 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberSkink Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 Just now, JoeW said: There are some Wortox adjustments that haven't made it to the Beta branch. That's still being worked on so I can't provide details, but I do know that there are some things people have been providing feedback for that are still being addressed. Whether it makes it to the Thursday update or a hotfix shortly afterward, I won't know until we get there. This is why I remain optimistic, you guys ALWAYS pull through! You listen to feedback, even when it isn’t pleasant. 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0sH Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JoeW said: There are some Wortox adjustments that haven't made it to the Beta branch. That's still being worked on so I can't provide details, but I do know that there are some things people have been providing feedback for that are still being addressed. Whether it makes it to the Thursday update or a hotfix shortly afterward, I won't know until we get there. THANK YOU!! These three sentences are all we needed to quell our concerns at the moment. Edited February 21, 2025 by Y0sH 8 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberSkink Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 12 minutes ago, Echsrick said: so you are fine with wortox skill tree? with all its filler that litteraly does nothing for him but to waste skill points? To answer my previous question: Short answer: ABSOLUTELY! Long answer: I think that the doom and gloom mindset doesn’t get us anywhere. I also believe that there are some things that should be changed, but overall I’m satisfied. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 3 minutes ago, JoeW said: There are some Wortox adjustments that haven't made it to the Beta branch. That's still being worked on so I can't provide details, but I do know that there are some things people have been providing feedback for that are still being addressed. Whether it makes it to the Thursday update or a hotfix shortly afterward, I won't know until we get there. now thats a light in the dark 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren11 Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 Are there going to be any more Wendy changes? Things like Haunt RNG, the Graves line, and Blessed Sisturn III could still use a few adjustments. Probably the alignments too, but I can’t test those. (Happy for the Wortox and Walter mains!) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberSkink Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 1 minute ago, Echsrick said: now thats a light in the dark I’m glad you’re hopeful. I also want to stress that I tried to tell you that they listen to feedback 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebsiaX Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 Some changes finally. I knew to never give up Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorePlease1 Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 59 minutes ago, Echsrick said: we were respectfull just to not get things changed no we are not happy, and wendy got way more updates dont come out with that that she got no updates She got tons of updates way more then both of them but u gotta look at it this way your not gonna get everything that you want like with Wolfgang skill tree it just makes him stronger that's it no fun abilities or anything like that it doesn't mean that they are a bad character or anything and some people like it I think why they are going so hard on walter it's because he was bad from the start so they have to make up for it with the skill tree but wortox is crazy good probably one of the best supports in the whole game so I understand why they don't wanna make his skill tree crazier then it already is Just now, MorePlease1 said: She got tons of updates way more then both of them but u gotta look at it this way your not gonna get everything that you want like with Wolfgang skill tree it just makes him stronger that's it no fun abilities or anything like that it doesn't mean that they are a bad character or anything and some people like it I think why they are going so hard on walter it's because he was bad from the start so they have to make up for it with the skill tree but wortox is crazy good probably one of the best supports in the whole game so I understand why they don't wanna make his skill tree crazier then it already is Also wendy are has decreases damage and her ghost insta died to bosses which is why they worked on her skill tree alot also Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren11 Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 5 minutes ago, MorePlease1 said: Also wendy are has decreases damage and her ghost insta died to bosses which is why they worked on her skill tree alot also Wendy’s tree was massively under-tuned at first and needed some major updates. A lot of the later stuff was aesthetic and balance changes since Klei accidentally made Abby unkillable like three different times. Meanwhile, some of the major issues with Wendy’s tree have persisted since almost the beginning. Wortox deserves his updates, but Wendy still needs work too. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapientis Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 As we talk about QoL for Walter, could there be implemented an option to quickly open Woby by clicking an item on her while mounted? Or maybe "Store" option at least. Now you default to examine, so you have to put held item into your eq, drop the other item, open Woby, store said item and pick the other item back up. 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugur01 Posted February 21, 2025 Share Posted February 21, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, JoeW said: There are some Wortox adjustments that haven't made it to the Beta branch. That's still being worked on so I can't provide details, but I do know that there are some things people have been providing feedback for that are still being addressed. Whether it makes it to the Thursday update or a hotfix shortly afterward, I won't know until we get there. -Provides some important informations -Refuses to elaborate further -Leaves Edited February 21, 2025 by Ugur01 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorePlease1 Posted February 22, 2025 Share Posted February 22, 2025 5 hours ago, Siren11 said: Wendy’s tree was massively under-tuned at first and needed some major updates. A lot of the later stuff was aesthetic and balance changes since Klei accidentally made Abby unkillable like three different times. Meanwhile, some of the major issues with Wendy’s tree have persisted since almost the beginning. Wortox deserves his updates, but Wendy still needs work too. Like I've said before I don't see anything bad with wortoxs skill tree it's pretty good for an already great character Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren11 Posted February 22, 2025 Share Posted February 22, 2025 10 minutes ago, MorePlease1 said: Like I've said before I don't see anything bad with wortoxs skill tree it's pretty good for an already great character That’s fair. I don’t feel like I’m qualified to give feedback on Wortox’s tree since he was previously one of my least favorite characters, and his skill tree basically just brought him up to a character I would actually enjoy playing (I really value AoE and fun combat stuff). I do like his naughty side a lot for the most part, and his nice side is quite useful for multiplayer (the only time I would ever play Wortox). I’m just not a huge fan of Cloudy Carmine, personally. For anything else, I’ll default to the players who understand him better, just as I would hope they would do for other characters. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDreamerI Posted February 22, 2025 Share Posted February 22, 2025 18 hours ago, JoeW said: There are some Wortox adjustments that haven't made it to the Beta branch. That's still being worked on so I can't provide details, but I do know that there are some things people have been providing feedback for that are still being addressed. Whether it makes it to the Thursday update or a hotfix shortly afterward, I won't know until we get there. Don't give false hope 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow soul 3 Posted February 22, 2025 Share Posted February 22, 2025 2 hours ago, IDreamerI said: Don't give false hope What are you trying to achieve here? They already said they're making changes. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorePlease1 Posted February 22, 2025 Share Posted February 22, 2025 14 hours ago, Siren11 said: That’s fair. I don’t feel like I’m qualified to give feedback on Wortox’s tree since he was previously one of my least favorite characters, and his skill tree basically just brought him up to a character I would actually enjoy playing (I really value AoE and fun combat stuff). I do like his naughty side a lot for the most part, and his nice side is quite useful for multiplayer (the only time I would ever play Wortox). I’m just not a huge fan of Cloudy Carmine, personally. For anything else, I’ll default to the players who understand him better, just as I would hope they would do for other characters. An administrator said yesterday that there will be some changes to wortox at Thursday Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted February 22, 2025 Share Posted February 22, 2025 19 minutes ago, AliceShiki said: For what it's worth, when two people with polar opposite opinions argue, the result is basically guaranteed to end as an "agree to disagree" kind of thing. If one of the sides is willing to budge in their position, then it's possible that a discussion will lead to them changing their mind, but this isn't always the case. Especially when it's about topics the people involved are passionate about. In situations where both parties are set on their position, the argumentation isn't so much to convince the other party, but more to convince 3rd parties that are reading it... Either that, or discussion for discussion's sake, since that can be fun in its own right. That's how I view it, at least. I enjoy discussing things on forums plenty, and there were times where I convinced people of my points, and there were times where I was convinced of other people's points... But more often than not, the discussion is mostly for the discussion's sake, or to convince other people who are reading, because sometimes it's really obvious that there is no chance that either side will convince the other. and thats why i learned to start to just stop talkin to the other side, simply because i have seen enought of this world and analysed human behaviors that to know its not worth to talk much more to them, nothing will change, everything will stay the same Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navras Posted February 23, 2025 Share Posted February 23, 2025 On 2/21/2025 at 4:38 AM, V2C said: Woby’s “Stay” will automatically turn off whenever she is mounted. Worst change ever. Wobby constantly runs away and it is frustrating especially in the labyrent because she triggers spiders... 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinFox Posted February 23, 2025 Share Posted February 23, 2025 I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question, and I apologize if it not is, but I would like to know if there is already a release date for this update? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreav.v Posted February 23, 2025 Share Posted February 23, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, AssassinFox said: I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question, and I apologize if it not is, but I would like to know if there is already a release date for this update? Thursday, February 27th Edited February 23, 2025 by dreav.v 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1800962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wortoxx Posted February 25, 2025 Share Posted February 25, 2025 Thank you for your work, but I lost the hype already... 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164299-game-update-656098/page/4/#findComment-1801252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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