sheaker Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 Dear All, I just want to ensure I am not missing anything. I have duplicants that are working in "Ocean" environment. They are moving in mixture of salt water 35 C deg and hydrogen 33 C deg. Yet they are constantly getting "Chilly Surrounding". Body temperature is 37 C. Temperature change is 0.0008 C/s. I think I am losing 2DTU/s to environment and duplicant can produce 83DTU/s. Is this really "Chilly Surrounding"? 50% speed reduction seems to be pretty harsh for that conditions. BTW I have Spaced Out, Frosty and Bionic DLCs enabled but this is not Frosty asteroid. Any details are welcome. Best regards, Sheaker Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 Hmm. I just put an unprotected dupe into 32C saltwater. No "Chilly Surroundings". It did trigger in 0C Oxygen. Are you overlooking a cold spot somewhere? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaker Posted January 4, 2025 Author Share Posted January 4, 2025 Nope. I was monitoring it quite intensively. It is almost a fresh colony. It was in cycle below 50. I entered Ocean Biome and my dups were moving slow and that brought my attention. Ocean Biom has temperature above 30 deg everywhere and some 95deg water was already there due to salt water geyser. I know hydrogen has high thermal conductivity but I still think Chilly Surrounding at 33 deg is too much. It looks like... it is matter of hydrogen being super conductive anyway. My duplicant was later standing in hydrogen of 34.9 C and Chilly Surrounding got triggered. There was a total heat change of -60 DTU/s with just 2.1 C difference between body temperature and hydrogen. Soooooooooo severe. EDIT: It seems like 2DTU/s I claimed earlier was in different spot where there was no longer hydrogen but some pockets of oxygen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigin Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 You can use the temperature overlay to see what counts as chilly surroundings for dupes without warm coats. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaker Posted January 4, 2025 Author Share Posted January 4, 2025 So indeed Salt Water of 35 C is considered as Chilly Surrounding. This seems strange but it is what it is. Thanks! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 Quite frankly, it seems something is broken here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3mory Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 I just found out that when I was building the air pump on the roof, it was filled with hydrogen （32c）, and working in a hydrogen-rich environment generates a heating effect. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaker Posted January 5, 2025 Author Share Posted January 5, 2025 7 hours ago, Gurgel said: Quite frankly, it seems something is broken here. How about this? 37.7 C - too hot, 35 C - too cold. Hmm................................... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jann5s Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 On my base, this is pretty much the same thing, maybe it is intended? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaker Posted January 5, 2025 Author Share Posted January 5, 2025 Yeah, I mean, now I agree that it looks like intended thing. I am just surprise that there is such a small range of temperatures (2.7 C or less) where duplicants feel comfortable. You know... 35 deg is too cold? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 5, 2025 Share Posted January 5, 2025 To be fair, the effect is strong only in liquid. At least from what I have seen. Overall not a critical problem except in the cold worlds. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162937-chilly-surrounding-in-water-of-35deg/#findComment-1783945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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