Rework shadow pieces

[Beetrice]

Why did you lock items behind fighting this awful boss multiple times? No one likes this boss - it's tedious, unintuitive, forces you to take damage, and punishes you ridiculously hard for getting hit once. Every level up is just changing the boss's variable sliders, no new attacks or strategies or anything. The Level 3 shadow knight is infamous for being undodgeable even with a magi and walking cane. I don't want rictus or the Super Duper Depth Worm pugilisk reskin boss. I want this boss to not suck. It could be so cool, too! Just look at the Ink Blights, which are the shadow pieces but good!

[End_Lord]

I also wish for this boss to be less horrible to try and access. The current system to begin the fight is incredibly tedious. Perhaps make it so that the pieces are closer to the statues?

 

[Well-met]

shadow pieces are a tanking test, not a dodging test.

Always remember to go for level 3 rook. The others are just too punishing for a solo player.

[Beetrice]

I don't want to be forced to tank the boss. That's boring...

[Guille6785]

This boss is excellent and frankly the last one that would need a rework (even though I think most don't even need one)

On 12/21/2024 at 1:52 AM, Beetrice said:

The Level 3 shadow knight is infamous for being undodgeable even with a magi and walking cane.

you can dodge it with just a cane and a road

[Beetrice]

For a casual or normal player, the Shadow Pieces are a slog of a fight. The fight is almost more of a slog than starting it, which can force you to check the entire map just to find the marble pieces (I've had to do that multiple times). Taming Beefalo is the worst of it - even after the rework, they're still insufferable to tame, and take a lot of time and dedication just to use them for Shadow Pieces and the Celestial Altar.

The fight isn't very compelling, is full of overlapping attacks (Shadow Bishop having a ******** undodgable attack can set you up for getting hit by the Rook or Knight), punishes you with twice the damage Bearger does, and is undodgeable without speed boosts. I think having to prepare thematic items for a fight can be fun and flavorful, such as using Pseudoscience crafts and the Nightmare Amulet against Fuelweaver, or using a torch/fire staff against Crystal Deerclops, but a Walking Cane doesn't have anything to do with the Shadow Pieces, neither does a Beefalo. It also sounds like bad game design if you have to lure the boss to a specific part of the map just to be able to avoid its attacks if your world generation isn't lucky.

At the least, Uncompromising Mode made the Shadow Bishop more interesting, by making it charge at you in its bat form rather than just teleporting on you and stunlocking you if you don't have a speed boost.

[gaymime]

On 12/25/2024 at 4:09 AM, Guille6785 said:

This boss is excellent and frankly the last one that would need a rework (even though I think most don't even need one)

you can dodge it with just a cane and a road

i'm not even fractionally that good x___x

[Guille6785]

2 hours ago, Beetrice said:

It also sounds like bad game design if you have to lure the boss to a specific part of the map just to be able to avoid its attacks if your world generation isn't lucky.

[Beetrice]

Okay, well, you got me there...