Bigspooks

[Giovirtual79]

Shout out to Slasher for making this apparent. I thought Bigspooks were good before, but the fact that you can have more than 4 in a fight makes them extremely good. I decided to try this method myself and this was the result.

Link to Slasher's video:

 

My attempt:

 

 

I messed up as you can see

 

[Steorra]

Oh great, countless grave has been disrespected (...

[Mike23Ua]

Ghost Army Rise Up! 

2 minutes ago, Steorra said:

Oh great, countless grave has been disrespected (...

Bro it’s a video game- They aren’t even on EARTH anymore, your Laws of life & death do not apply here, Dying is weird within the constant, you live, you die, you live again, you die again, you live again in an endless never ending cycle.

Your playing a game where MAXWELL can inspect a grave tombstone and his quote says “I almost feel sorry about that one.”

Which: If you’ve ONLY played DST and never touched the single player game… you may not know that Maxwell captured all them people and put them in the constant to die for his own amusement.

Please don’t start making a mountain out of a mole hill.

[_mylilsunshine_]

9 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Bro it’s a video game- They aren’t even on EARTH anymore, your Laws of life & death do not apply here, Dying is weird within the constant, you live, you die, you live again, you die again, you live again in an endless never ending cycle.

Your playing a game where MAXWELL can inspect a grave tombstone and his quote says “I almost feel sorry about that one.”

Which: If you’ve ONLY played DST and never touched the single player game… you may not know that Maxwell captured all them people and put them in the constant to die for his own amusement.

Please don’t start making a mountain out of a mole hill.

hey man, i think you gotta take it with a grain of salt and chill for a bit. i get that wendy discourse has been going on and on for weeks, but crashing out like this isn't a good look

with that being said

1 hour ago, Giovirtual79 said:

Shout out to Slasher for making this apparent. I thought Bigspooks were good before, but the fact that you can have more than 4 in a fight makes them extremely good. I decided to try this method myself and this was the result.

the kind of prep that went into this is kind of insane and not entirely sustainable. you deprive your world of all the flowers and then what.. wait for it to respawn? idk, the video is a fun gimmick, i enjoyed it but i still think bigspook is kinda eh (which is fine)

[Steorra]

1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said:

Please don’t start making a mountain out of a mole hill

It is OOC for me. 

I think to have personal opinion to some design relative to background story would not be out of place.

1 hour ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

i enjoyed it but i still think bigspook is kinda eh (which is fine)

yep, they help nothing to what you struggled, and they help a little to what already easy for you.

[Yifei_]

For bosses like BQ, which Wendy is already adept at dealing with, Bigspooks feels more like an added bonus. As for bosses with AOE damage like Deerclop, Bearger, and even CC, Bigspooks can hardly provide effective assistance; they simply cannot survive. Previously, some people suggested using Bigspooks against spiders and hounds, but these creatures pose no threat to Wendy anyway, so I am skeptical about the practicality of Bigspooks.

However, using Bigspooks against BQ is indeed a valuable strategy.

[hyoton123]

Hell yeah.

[Dingle]

7 hours ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

the kind of prep that went into this is kind of insane and not entirely sustainable. you deprive your world of all the flowers and then what.. wait for it to respawn? idk, the video is a fun gimmick, i enjoyed it but i still think bigspook is kinda eh (which is fine)

You only really need 4 graves. That's 12 flowers. If you want to go crazy, you only really need 8 instead of the giant amount Slasher did.

A bug net = 10 flowers. Or you could use the net to catch some bees and drop them in an area with at least 6 flowers. They will then make more flowers for you over time, fairly quickly, forever.

5 hours ago, Steorra said:

yep, they help nothing to what you struggled, and they help a little to what already easy for you.

It cuts down on healing and marble armor used, considerably.

I remember when I did a thread like this using 5 bigspooks. Someone posted a video to say "you don't need bigspooks! You can just do it without!"

This is true. But the video also used twice as much healing and armor than I did.

In the OPs video (the second one), he really just uses one marble armor, and no healing.

It's not a bad trade for moving some graves and picking some flowers.

[Jakepeng99]

7 hours ago, Steorra said:

Oh great, countless grave has been disrespected (...

They are not real.

[Steorra]

50 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

They are not real.

Jakepeng99 is real, I know.

51 minutes ago, Dingle said:

It cuts down on healing and marble armor used, considerably.

I remember when I did a thread like this using 5 bigspooks. Someone posted a video to say "you don't need bigspooks! You can just do it without!"

This is true. But the video also used twice as much healing and armor than I did.

In the OPs video (the second one), he really just uses one marble armor, and no healing.

It's not a bad trade for moving some graves and picking some flowers.

Sounds logical, I've ignored the price of graves is more cheaper, I'm sorry

[Giovirtual79]

10 hours ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

hey man, i think you gotta take it with a grain of salt and chill for a bit. i get that wendy discourse has been going on and on for weeks, but crashing out like this isn't a good look

with that being said

the kind of prep that went into this is kind of insane and not entirely sustainable. you deprive your world of all the flowers and then what.. wait for it to respawn? idk, the video is a fun gimmick, i enjoyed it but i still think bigspook is kinda eh (which is fine)

Realistically, you only really need about 4-10 graves to even pull this off, something that is very feasible. You can also plant butterflies to gain more flowers in the world, something made more possible thanks to Mouring Glory one allowing you to craft butterflies. The time, healing, and armor you save having all these Bigspooks compared to fighting normally and using Abby's buffs is night and day, so I do think this is very much worth iit

9 hours ago, Yifei_ said:

For bosses like BQ, which Wendy is already adept at dealing with, Bigspooks feels more like an added bonus. As for bosses with AOE damage like Deerclop, Bearger, and even CC, Bigspooks can hardly provide effective assistance; they simply cannot survive. Previously, some people suggested using Bigspooks against spiders and hounds, but these creatures pose no threat to Wendy anyway, so I am skeptical about the practicality of Bigspooks.

However, using Bigspooks against BQ is indeed a valuable strategy.

I'd say Bigspooks/Gravestone moving are gonna be less used for day to day combat and more useful for farms, such as the werepig farm. It also just helps you farm dark petals for nightmare fuel and generate pipspooks for mourning glory, so I think it's still a fair trade even if you don't use the Bigspooks. You can place graves in the Atrium as well. I dunno how useful Bigspooks will be for Fuelweaver, they can even be not useful at all, but you can do that.. 

[Evelo]

I did this pretty early on in the beta. I wouldn't use it frequently but if you need to farm BQ, I like this one the most. Though I will probably just use it for nightmare fuel generation and automatic pig farm honestly.

[DegenerateFurry]

I really like how this now gives Wendy true boss farming potential like Wickerbottom's tentacle farms. I hope they don't nerf it in any way. 

[Dingle]

Just did this again in another playthrough.

It works way, way better if you simply plant 4 graves, move a distance away, plant another 4 graves, repeat.

You'll get another 4 bigspooks consistently every time you chase her into another patch.

Way better than just dumping a bunch of graves in one big graveyard.

I did this with 8 graves, but I bet it would work just as well with 12,.etc

[Giovirtual79]

34 minutes ago, Dingle said:

Just did this again in another playthrough.

It works way, way better if you simply plant 4 graves, move a distance away, plant another 4 graves, repeat.

You'll get another 4 bigspooks consistently every time you chase her into another patch.

Way better than just dumping a bunch of graves in one big graveyard.

I did this with 8 graves, but I bet it would work just as well with 12,.etc

I did try doing that initially. Granted, I was not good at leading BQ beforehard, so I ditched it for the giant grave I did. I might revamp it and try it again if it's more consistent than giant graves

[Mike23Ua]

Hey just checking back did you test to see if haunting the graves can force summon the ghosts I kinda hope that it does because the set up cost of relocating all the graves and investing skill points into graves + the Haunt ability.

Should allow me to have an Army of ghosts.

[Crestwave]

On 12/23/2024 at 8:30 AM, Mike23Ua said:

Hey just checking back did you test to see if haunting the graves can force summon the ghosts I kinda hope that it does because the set up cost of relocating all the graves and investing skill points into graves + the Haunt ability.

Should allow me to have an Army of ghosts.

Haunted graves spawning ghosts is an old mechanic that was unfortunately removed along with the other "harmful" haunt effects like items lighting on fire, breaking, spoiling, etc.