usagiP Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: This applies to merms, spiders, and Bernie himself. I don't understand what you mean, please explain in detail Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 Just now, usagiP said: I don't understand what you mean, please explain in detail If you talking about the player tag thing which is what the conversation was about then it was about what separates Abgial from spiders and Bernie. If your answer is the power of the moon then shattered spiders, mutated merms, and Bernie exist the latter two being the result of making pacts with the moon to inherent it's power. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagiP Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 8 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: If you talking about the player tag thing which is what the conversation was about then it was about what separates Abgial from spiders and Bernie. If your answer is the power of the moon then shattered spiders, mutated merms, and Bernie exist the latter two being the result of making pacts with the moon to inherent it's power. The merm and Bernie do not react to the full moon in the game, nor do the spiders. However, the ghosts have special events related to the full moon, making them seem more like they are naturally blessed by the moon, while the spiders and merm appear to be eroded by it. This is quite interesting As for player tags, I think you're just trying to confuse things, because every follower and every character is quite different. I'm curious about who was saying before, "this character doesn't have to become that character"? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 15 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: If you talking about the player tag thing which is what the conversation was about then it was about what separates Abgial from spiders and Bernie. If your answer is the power of the moon then shattered spiders, mutated merms, and Bernie exist the latter two being the result of making pacts with the moon to inherent it's power. Maybe you forgot that Bernie has 2600 health and reflects damage. Two bernies can kill a moon deer. Five bernies can kill a moon bear. Willow just needs to stand next to him and drop another Bernie after Bernie dies Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 32 minutes ago, cyjs said: Maybe you forgot that Bernie has 2600 health and reflects damage. Two bernies can kill a moon deer. Five bernies can kill a moon bear. Willow just needs to stand next to him and drop another Bernie after Bernie dies The reflect does 50 damage and requires her to sacrifice most of her fire spells and the sewing kit is equivalent to the Wendy's revival potion except Wendy doesn't have to make sacrifice to use this and Bernie is supposed to be a tank Abigial isn't. Also I have a hard time believing 2 Bernie's is enough to kill mutated deerclops under the barrage of shadow creatures and mutated deerclops. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 7 hours ago, Sacco said: Because you are not meant to live abigail alone and kill the boss alone... Not sure what you are saying, could you show us this by videos? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catapult 2.0 Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 No, it's a reasonable skill and I really like this change 不，这是一个合理的技能，我非常喜欢这个更改 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 3 hours ago, Steorra said: Not sure what you are saying, could you show us this by videos? Lardee posted a video about it. Now abi can fight alone and without your help she can take half of the bosses' health... that's crazy and that's not even fun at all. You want to make abi and wendy even more op?! I don't understand why Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, Sacco said: Lardee posted a video about it. Now abi can fight alone and without your help she can take half of the bosses' health... that's crazy and that's not even fun at all. You want to make abi and wendy even more op?! I don't understand why I was just posted a video about how nurse spiders overwhelming a lunar deerclop. I'm not sure why Wendy with skill tree should be weaker than Webber without skill tree. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 26 minutes ago, Steorra said: I was just posted a video about how nurse spiders overwhelming a lunar deerclop. I'm not sure why Wendy with skill tree should be weaker than Webber without skill tree. because first of all abi does noy require work to become op... and due to the way hordes work they overwhelm bosses. am i ok with that? no 23 minutes ago, Fitzee said: Clarification: There is help involved, in the form of Spectral Cure-Alls. Nerfing the effectiveness of healing elixirs on player-tag Abigail is a different discussion entirely; I just wanted to explain why your statement was incorrect. ah sorry, just click a button means you are helping her... what hard task Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 10 minutes ago, Sacco said: because first of all abi does noy require work to become op... and due to the way hordes work they overwhelm bosses. am i ok with that? no Have the current skill tree make Abi becomes OP for you? Have you overcome something you can't do before such like lunar bearger with Abi? If it not, then the "OP" topic is none of your business. If it does, show us videos of your own about how that worked. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Steorra said: Have the current skill tree make Abi becomes OP for you? Have you overcome something you can't do before such like lunar bearger with Abi? If it not, then the "OP" topic is none of your business. If it does, show us videos of your own about how that worked. Yea she is op, because she can halve the health of bosses with just you watching her. It's not fun nor balanced at all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 11 minutes ago, Sacco said: ah sorry, just click a button means you are helping her... what hard task We have helped pipspooks first. You may say that current pipspooks skill line is OP. That's none of Cure-ALL business. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Fitzee said: I know your "chill-guy" persona got worn down by the forums (unsurprisingly), but your sass is unwarranted. i am just saying what i think. I honestly don't think that clicking a button is a great help, that's it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sacco said: Yea she is op, because she can halve the health of bosses with just you watching her. It's not fun nor balanced at all. Half the boss health means nothing about OP. You still haven't overcome the boss. And spiders could easily overwhelm every single boss without skill tree. A post skill tree follower is still weaker than pre skill tree, even she haven't help you to overcome any thing after the change, she is pretty "OP" huh? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, Steorra said: We have helped pipspooks first. You may say that current pipspooks skill line is OP. That's none of Cure-ALL business. no, don't change topic. I am saying that helping pipspook IS NOT HARD and that clicking a button is very easy and boring. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Steorra said: Half the boss health means nothing about OP. You still haven't overcome the boss. And spiders could easily overwhelm every single boss without skill tree. A post skill tree follower is still weaker than pre skill tree, even she haven't help you to overcome any thing after the change, she is pretty "OP" huh? Ah yes, you think that abi becomes op the moment she kills bosses... That's op, because you skip half of the bosse's health and mechanics. There is no need to argue with you, cause you just think i am in the wrong. Bye 37 minutes ago, Fitzee said: Clarification: There is help involved, in the form of Spectral Cure-Alls. Nerfing the effectiveness of healing elixirs on player-tag Abigail is a different discussion entirely; I just wanted to explain why your statement was incorrect. YEA, HELP GAINED FROM DOING NOTHING Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sacco said: no, don't change topic. I am saying that helping pipspook IS NOT HARD and that clicking a button is very easy and boring. Yeah don't change topic, where's your videos for showing how Abi have helped you to overcome something "easily" as an "OP" way after the newest change now? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 Just now, Steorra said: Yeah don't change topic, where's your videos for showing how Abi have helped you to overcome something "easily" as an "OP" way after the newest change now? Watch lardee video. Just watch it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 8 minutes ago, Sacco said: There is no need to argue with you, cause you just think i am in the wrong. Bye Logic failed, because of lack of videos from your own. Have to say "Bye". 7 minutes ago, Sacco said: Watch lardee video. Just watch it I've said that there's a simple logic - if current Abi did nothing to help you for overcome something what you couldn't do before, then it is not "OP". A most easiest way to prove that anything is "OP", is just give a comparison about how a particular aim is hard for you, then how easy it becomes after you using the "OP" thing. Taking the argument by using others videos even those videos have no relation with current topic? Funny. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, Steorra said: Logic failed, because of lack of videos from your own. Have to say "Bye". I've said that there's a simple logic - if current Abi did nothing to help you for overcome something what you couldn't do before, then it is not "OP". Taking the argument by using others videos even those videos have no relation with current topic? Funny. She helped you! she removed half of the boss' health and you just watched her!! You did not do anything 1 minute ago, Fitzee said: Replying to the same comment twice, are we? I won't say names, but I may end up ignoring/blocking someone if they don't ease a certain behavior; it can be mistaken as trolling. sorry but i don't understand what are you trying to tell me Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sacco said: She helped you! she removed half of the boss' health and you just watched her!! You did not do anything Be chilled my dear. You should give a video to show how unskilled Abi can't help you then after learning the skill how "OP" Abi helped you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Steorra said: Be chilled my dear. You should give a video to show how unskilled Abi can't help you then after learning the skill how "OP" Abi helped you. i said which video bro. Go watch lardee video plaese, just watch his video. Just now, Fitzee said: How curious, you reply to me when I never even mentioned a name. I wonder why that is? because you are just arguing with me. Tell me what i did wrong please, i'd appreciate it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 12 minutes ago, Sacco said: i said which video bro. Go watch lardee video plaese, just watch his video. You are shifting the responsibility to other guys for an unrelated topic. I'm asking you about that how the OP abi helps you to overcome something undoable before. There's none of others businesses. Stop avoiding the questioning. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, Steorra said: You are shifting the responsibility to other guys for an unrelated topic. I'm asking you about that how the OP abi helps you to overcome something undoable before the OP change for you. There's none of others businesses. Stop avoiding the questioning. i'm just saying that abi is now op because you don't have to interact with the boss to leave him at half health. I can replicate what lardee did, because it's something anyone can do. abi is indeed op. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162363-i-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-the-sistern-skills-change/page/6/#findComment-1776353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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