[Poll] On Walter, Wendy and Wortox's Current Skilltrees, Premortem (v3)

[GetNerfedOn]

1 minute ago, YXukun said:

There was a poll over Wendy's skilltree when the first version of skilltree came out, I recall received 80% unsatisfied

If it's alright, I want to see polls from the next patches to see how sentiment changed as time went by, as well as results; percentage is one thing but if there are tons of respondents then there is also saturation or overwhelming majority to consider.

[Yifei_]

1 hour ago, GetNerfedOn said:

I would, but my phone number is invalid for Baidu registration.

That is a concern. I've posted a similar satisfaction poll for you on Baidu Tieba, with the same five options, but only for Wendy. But I'm not sure if enough people will see the poll I've posted Baidu Tieba.

[Yifei_]

4 hours ago, GetNerfedOn said:

Feel free to copy the poll to Baidu and show us the results!

I have post the result, you can have a look at my topic: "Poll of Wendy's Skill Tree from Baidu Tieba (Chinese version of Reddit)".

[yigejuhao]

These are some voting results from our Chinese forum. The ones on top indicate satisfaction, while the ones on the bottom indicate dissatisfaction. Most of them are dissatisfied.

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9320355842?tid=9320355842&threadType=1040&jump_type=pbPage&jump_tieba_native=1

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9320440942?share=9105&fr=sharewise&see_lz=0&share_from=post&sfc=copy&client_type=2&client_version=12.74.1.1&st=1733833735&is_video=false&unique=DB5F906D684C6ED0ED0781EF79BB9983

This is our original post

Wendy 的技能树需要重新设计，因为它目前缺乏兴趣。

Wendy's skill tree needs to be reworked, as it currently lacks interest.

[Mike23Ua]

I will actually need to be able to PLAY with the content before I can give any feedback on it, and by that time Klei has considered it finished and moved on to something else.

I am a bit worried how well the new updates will translate to Xbox Controllers I’m not in love with the Idea of putting Abigail’s controls on a Navigation Wheel, she should probably still have Quick tap access to Summon/Dismiss, Rile & Soothe because navigating a command wheel while still also moving about and playing the game sounds like it’ll make Wendy’s skill tree/Rework Part 2 way more inconvenient.

With that said.. I’m confused at what even is the difference between “Dismiss” & “Escape” if both serve the same purpose to get Abigail out of combat..? I probably won’t even waste a skill point on this unless it’s Mandatory for a better unlock, or it has some actual cool usefulness that I’m unaware of.

And also some of the new stuff they gave Wortox looks like it’ll be fun on PC but won’t be as fun for other platforms due to his restricted movement and such on controller/console limitations.

Other than THAT I can’t comment on the beta stuff, cause I can’t play the Beta stuff.

[layangan putus]

5 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

I will actually need to be able to PLAY with the content before I can give any feedback on it, and by that time Klei has considered it finished and moved on to something else.

I am a bit worried how well the new updates will translate to Xbox Controllers I’m not in love with the Idea of putting Abigail’s controls on a Navigation Wheel, she should probably still have Quick tap access to Summon/Dismiss, Rile & Soothe because navigating a command wheel while still also moving about and playing the game sounds like it’ll make Wendy’s skill tree/Rework Part 2 way more inconvenient.

With that said.. I’m confused at what even is the difference between “Dismiss” & “Escape” if both serve the same purpose to get Abigail out of combat..? I probably won’t even waste a skill point on this unless it’s Mandatory for a better unlock, or it has some actual cool usefulness that I’m unaware of.

And also some of the new stuff they gave Wortox looks like it’ll be fun on PC but won’t be as fun for other platforms due to his restricted movement and such on controller/console limitations.

Other than THAT I can’t comment on the beta stuff, cause I can’t play the Beta stuff.

Apparently, that means Wendy & Abigail TOGETHER vs the world. People would stick to summon/unsummon playstyle with shadow Abi - Simpler solution to achieve your goal, why should you bother with the complication to have fun & engaging playstyle? 

[GetNerfedOn]

3 hours ago, Yifei_ said:

I have post the result, you can have a look at my topic: "Poll of Wendy's Skill Tree from Baidu Tieba (Chinese version of Reddit)".

 

2 hours ago, yigejuhao said:

These are some voting results from our Chinese forum. The ones on top indicate satisfaction, while the ones on the bottom indicate dissatisfaction. Most of them are dissatisfied.

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9320355842?tid=9320355842&threadType=1040&jump_type=pbPage&jump_tieba_native=1

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9320440942?share=9105&fr=sharewise&see_lz=0&share_from=post&sfc=copy&client_type=2&client_version=12.74.1.1&st=1733833735&is_video=false&unique=DB5F906D684C6ED0ED0781EF79BB9983

This is our original post

Wendy 的技能树需要重新设计，因为它目前缺乏兴趣。

Wendy's skill tree needs to be reworked, as it currently lacks interest.

Hello, sorry i could not respond in time - i slept a little. Also, when i tried to search the poll before i left, it did not show up in google - perhaps that's because i should have translated the Poll into Chinese before searching

At any rate, thank you for having repeated my poll in your forum! To me, it's nice that a sentiment is backed by an actual figure instead of just conjectures. I will say though that the skill tree certainly doesn't lack interest, since people are very concerned about Wendy over there. 

If I may ask, how are the other two characters also seen in your forum? If it's not too much trouble, would you mind repeating the poll for them, as well?

By the way, for our visitors, to clear your expectations or assumptions, however, I must make a disclaimer that i'm not staff of Klei, just a fan who wants to make polls about the updates. Gathering your sentiments is one thing; but whether those sentiments will affect any changes is another thing entirely. 

[Yifei_]

10 minutes ago, GetNerfedOn said:

If I may ask, how are the other two characters also seen in your forum? If it's not too much trouble, would you mind repeating the poll for them, as well?

Currently, there are no skill tree polls on Baidu Tieba for Wortorx and Walter, and I only posted a poll for Wendy's skill tree before because I play Wendy more often and know very little about the other two characters.
In my opinion, people seem quite satisfied with the skill trees of the other two characters, especially Wortorx's, as people greatly appreciate the design of the skill tree. Players are already discussing a lot about the playstyles and strategies for Wortorx.

12 minutes ago, GetNerfedOn said:

By the way, for our visitors, to clear your expectations or assumptions, however, I must make a disclaimer that i'm not staff of Klei, just a fan who wants to make polls about the updates. Gathering your sentiments is one thing; but whether those sentiments will affect any changes is another thing entirely. 

I understand this point.

[SilverSpoon]

In the end, Polls showed that it is the one of worst choice to belittle their opinions just because they are "Chinese".
If people in forum keep kicking them with 10, they will eventually kick back with 10,000.

If we treat them with 10 kindness, they will response 10,000 kindness in return. I hope so.

[cyjs]

41 minutes ago, GetNerfedOn said:

 

If I may ask, how are the other two characters also seen in your forum? If it's not too much trouble, would you mind repeating the poll for them, as well?

 

We like Wortox very much, and we also like Walter very much. We are already studying various boss evasion methods for Slingshot. They will all be powerful characters in the future.

[Lee Sy]

42 minutes ago, GetNerfedOn said:

If I may ask, how are the other two characters also seen in your forum?

I believe there isn't much difference in opinion regarding Wortox; almost everyone is very satisfied with its design. However, there may be some variations when it comes to Walter. In general, people accept the voting results on the forum. Except for Wendy, we don't understand why quite a few people would choose to be "very satisfied."

[Echsrick]

44 minutes ago, Lee Sy said:

I believe there isn't much difference in opinion regarding Wortox; almost everyone is very satisfied with its design.

actualy there is, we just get drown out by a blonde girl

[Lee lol]

1分钟前，Echsrick说：

实际上有，我们刚刚被一个金发女孩淹死了

If you have, you can post. If your post is flooded, it means that his problem is not so serious that not many people mention it. This is a simple probability question.

[Echsrick]

3 minutes ago, Lee lol said:

If you have, you can post. If your post is flooded, it means that his problem is not so serious that not many people mention it. This is a simple probability question.

i think the problem more so lies onto others over reacting

[cyjs]

2 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

i think the problem more so lies onto others over reacting

If you must think this is an overreaction, you can probably look forward to future developments.

[Echsrick]

5 minutes ago, cyjs said:

If you must think this is an overreaction, you can probably look forward to future developments.

i can see the future, it contains.....skill trees.....and maybe less....problematic talk happening

[cyjs]

4 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

i can see the future, it contains.....skill trees.....and maybe less....problematic talk happening

I hope so too, but disappointment has begun to sweep over us. 

[Peasant]

So far 195 had voted...People here doesn't like to take part in a poll or something?

[Chewabacca]

Put "unsatisfied" for Walter with the caveat that I'm mostly unsatisfied with the Woby branch, which has yet to be released in full and will hopefully help her a lot when it does get added to the game.