Add an in game way to change Crab King version

[grm9]

3 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

the speedrunner community

???

how's old CK related to speedrunning

[Gashzer]

Just now, grm9 said:

???

how's old CK related to speedrunning

Its related to the same people who are part of the speedrunning community.

Do you see anyone here who isnt a part of your community backing you up?

[grm9]

2 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Do you see anyone here who isnt a part of your community backing you up?

there's literally only 1 user that's also in a speedrunning community that responded to this thread and i'm not even a speedrunner

[Primalflower]

It's the sort of problem that can (and already has been, thankfully) solved with mods but i definitely did like the old crab king even if i like the new one too a lot. I wouldn't turn my nose up at some sort easter egg-esque way to bring the old one back for old times sake

i'm not a speedrunner btw

[Gashzer]

1 minute ago, grm9 said:

there's literally only 1 user from speedrunning community that responded to this thread and i'm not even a speedrunner

Boss rusher is the exact same thing just without the made-up rules.

Fine ill clarify, the wannabe speedrunner community.

[grm9]

Just now, Gashzer said:

Boss rusher is the exact same thing just without the made-up rules

no, there're other differences but that's irrelevant in this context

1 minute ago, Gashzer said:

Fine ill clarify, the wannabe speedrunner community

if that means people that're in some sort of community about rushing bosses, then that's still only 1 user

[Primalflower]

5 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Do you see anyone here who isnt a part of your community backing you up?

i don't participate in any sort of speedrunning and have no intentions to much less engage in any sort of community around it (i dont really like talking about games competitively its not fun to me) but i think something obscure like this would be fine to add to the game

[Theukon-dos]

17 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Boss rusher is the exact same thing just without the made-up rules.

Fine ill clarify, the wannabe speedrunner community.

What does being a boss rusher have to do with wanting old CK? If anything, wouldn't they prefer the new, easier fight if that's all that motivated them?

[arubaro]

2 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said:

What does being a boss rusher have to do with wanting old CK? If anything, wouldn't they prefer the new, easier fight if that's all that motivated them?

Is just trying to atack people that is good enough at the game to dont need 1000 days to beat fuelweaver without the nerfs is trying to push

[Gashzer]

18 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said:

What does being a boss rusher have to do with wanting old CK? If anything, wouldn't they prefer the new, easier fight if that's all that motivated them?

New crab king is easier but requires more initial resources which i guess is why grm9 made this thread. Cant rush it as easily with bare minimum stuff.

[grm9]

5 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Its easier but requires more initial resources which i guess is why grm9 made this thread. Cant rush it as easily with bare minimum stuff

no, i made it because i and multiple other people think that old CK's more fun to fight in comparison to new CK

[Gashzer]

Just now, grm9 said:

no, i made it because i think that old CK's more fun to fight

What made it more fun?

[grm9]

4 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

What made it more fun?

there were more things that you needed to do in comparison to "start rowing from far away to ram into CK, hold F, get onto ice, use pan flute, hold F and repeat"

[Gashzer]

10 minutes ago, grm9 said:

there were more things that you needed to do in comparison to "start rowing from far away to ram into CK, hold F, get onto ice, use pan flute, hold F and repeat"

 

 

You are saying there is more happening here?? Hahahaha ok buddy

 

[ADM]

The echo chamber of hate toward the old Crab King is so fat that players that enjoyed it basically do not exist. That has gone this far and I'm not even surprised, only massively disappointed. I say it's fair and in a sense, expected, that it was disliked, and that post-rework you get to like or finally tolerate it, but if someone thinks the opposite they're an anomaly and should shut up if they don't feed the hivemind, zero bifurcation tolerated.

 

I'm not fighting this more, especially here. I already modded him back to normal and with the improvements I had actually wished for. But I believe this isn't the best solution and that we don't deserve to be looked and talked to like unreal freaks wherever its mentioned we liked stuff one way.

[Gashzer]

1 hour ago, ADM said:

The echo chamber of hate toward the old Crab King is so fat that players that enjoyed it basically do not exist. That has gone this far and I'm not even surprised, only massively disappointed. I say it's fair and in a sense, expected, that it was disliked, and that post-rework you get to like or finally tolerate it, but if someone thinks the opposite they're an anomaly and should shut up if they don't feed the hivemind, zero bifurcation tolerated.

 

I'm not fighting this more, especially here. I already modded him back to normal and with the improvements I had actually wished for. But I believe this isn't the best solution and that we don't deserve to be looked and talked to like unreal freaks wherever its mentioned we liked stuff one way.

I feel the exact same everytime i mention an ancient fuelweaver nerf.

The hivemind comes out to defend an extremely messy fight... Its like no one here can empathize with players with less than 5000hrs. 

No boss should require an obsessive level of DST playtime to defeat.

Ancient fuelweaver is related to this thread as its also a boss that requires tweaks to improve its gameplay and fun factor.

[grm9]

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

You are saying there is more happening here??

well yes

18 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

The hivemind comes out to defend an extremely messy fight... Its like no one here can empathize with players with less than 5000hrs. 

No boss should require an obsessive level of DST playtime to defeat

that seems like trolling at this point, stop cluttering the thread with entirely unrelated stuff and misinformation

[Gashzer]

3 minutes ago, grm9 said:

well yes

No hes literally rowing back and forth and pressing f.

The old fight looks so bland in comparison to the new crab king.

This thread seems like trolling, new crab king is obviously better, why bait people?

[grm9]

2 hours ago, Gashzer said:

No hes literally rowing back and forth and pressing f

sure, there's an old CK mod on the workshop, download it and do the fight 1st try with same items when playing as same character, surely should be really easy

it's just embarrassing to simply look at something and say that yeah i've never tried it but it's really easy and boring, you didn't mention staying in an area with as few claws as possible, syncing hits to cancel heal, keeping a distance between CK and a boat if it's grass to not get frozen since simply running to the edge isn't enough if it's too close to CK, making sure that you won't drown when cancelling heal etc.

2 hours ago, Gashzer said:

This thread seems like trolling, new crab king is obviously better, why bait people?

you've already wrote like 4 messages as attempts to make people argue with you about FW in an unrelated thread

[Theukon-dos]

16 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

I feel the exact same everytime i mention an ancient fuelweaver nerf.

The hivemind comes out to defend an extremely messy fight... Its like no one here can empathize with players with less than 5000hrs. 

No boss should require an obsessive level of DST playtime to defeat.

I beat Ancient Fuelweaver for the first time well before hitting 1000 hours. And I probably would have beaten it even earlier if it wasn't gated by an even harder boss (crippling ADHD).

 

These bosses are not nearly as hard as you make them out to be. Even old CK, who again; I agree was a horribly designed boss that needed changed; was entirely possible to learn without needing to play the game as a full time job.

A boss being hard doesn't mean you need thousands of hours to fight. You're just apparently refusing to learn how to fight them in the first place.

[Gashzer]

7 minutes ago, grm9 said:

sure, there's an old CK mod on the workshop, download it and do the fight 1st try with same items when playing as same character, surely should be really easy

it's just embarrassing to simply look at something and say that yeah i've never tried it but it's really easy and boring, you didn't mention staying in an area with as few claws as possible, syncing hits to cancel heal, keeping a distance between CK and a boat if it's grass to not get frozen since simply running to the edge isn't enough if it's too close to CK, making sure that you won't drown when cancelling heal etc.

Guille's video makes the fight look so boring and bland.

Now compare Guilles's video with Jazzy.

 

The fight is 10x more dynamic and fun to watch thats not even considering doing the fight yourself which is obviously more fun too.

9 minutes ago, grm9 said:

you've already wrote like 4 messages as attempts to make people argue with you about FW in an unrelated thread, the irony

Yeah the hardcore ignoring of my ancient fuelweaver comments just proves your hypocrisy.

Its not unrelated, you want boss tweaks so do i. Not fair if klei gives you what you want and not what i want.

[grm9]

57 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

The fight is 10x more dynamic and fun to watch thats not even considering doing the fight yourself which is obviously more fun too

so opinions don't exist

57 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Yeah the hardcore ignoring of my ancient fuelweaver comments just proves your hypocrisy

do you still think that anyone thinks that you aren't a troll

58 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Its not unrelated

FW's unrelated to CK

[Gashzer]

3 minutes ago, grm9 said:

so opinions don't exist

do you still think that anyone thinks that you aren't a troll

FW's unrelated to CK

Doesnt matter if im a troll or not if the points im making have logic behind them... Which they do 

A troll can call the sky blue. That doesnt make him wrong for saying the truth even if hes a troll.

[grm9]

Just now, Gashzer said:

Doesnt matter if im a troll or not if the points im making have logic behind them... Which they do 

they don't and you know that but just say nonsense anyway to get reactions

not sure if there's a point in replying further now that you've admitted that you're a troll a 2nd time 

[Gashzer]

Just now, grm9 said:

they don't and you know that but just say nonsense anyway to get reactions

not sure if there's a point in replying further now that you've admitted that you're a troll a 2nd time 

Here ive changed my mind and accepted your mentality about things!

Im all for you getting an ingame method to bring old crab king back.

As long as my ingame method to nerf ancient fuelweaver gets added, see my thread down below for more info, im pretty proud of my idea ngl.