The need to improve Wilson's skill tree is more important than ever.

[NPCMaxwell]

Just now, mkemal23 said:

This was an art made by one of klei artists in one of RWP streams. You can find the original image in the Wiki gg Wilson gallery tab.

If I find the stream I'll put the link here.

Considering how often I look at every DS art that features Wilson or / and Maxwell I am surprised I haven't noticed it xD Or I did and I forgot for some reason. I don't know what the RWP streams are though as I usually never follow any streams. But it seems it is official streams from Klei themselves? Interesting. [still I probably wouldn't have the energy to follow a stream]

[mkemal23]

7 minutes ago, NPCMaxwell said:

Considering how often I look at every DS art that features Wilson or / and Maxwell I am surprised I haven't noticed it xD Or I did and I forgot for some reason. I don't know what the RWP streams are though as I usually never follow any streams. But it seems it is official streams from Klei themselves? Interesting. [still I probably wouldn't have the energy to follow a stream]

RWP(Rhymes with play) is as far as I know what klei streams are called. There are also Art streams where Artists doodle and chat with fans. So yes, the art is official and made by klei artists. 

I added the link into my previous post. There is a channel that archives the streams so you can watch it any time. 

[Anis5240]

20 minutes ago, NPCMaxwell said:

Wilson isn't a cave man he may be a failed scientist but he SOMEHOW managed to build a Maxwell Door just like this after getting instructions by holding a creepy talking radio and spinning in circles

Real. He might be a failed scientist and some of his inventions have questionable ideas/thoughts behind the processes, but they did serve their job well enough. He canonically got ridiculed for making the gardeneer hat and the fire pump, yet they still have reasons and purposes. Same goes for the rain-o-meter and the thermal measurer.

Meanwhile what even the hell is the purpose of making a torch into a discount lantern???

24 minutes ago, NPCMaxwell said:

Wilson should have more of a BLUEPRINT related ability then just the most primitive of all lightsources.

And then people going to say "duplicating blueprints are so OP"  how is getting players to have teamwork for gathering materials to get such dupes is OP? This is Don't Starve Together; everything can be OP if needed.

[NPCMaxwell]

6 minutes ago, mkemal23 said:

RWP(Rhymes with play) is as far as I know what klei streams are called. There are also Art streams where Artists doodle and chat with fans. So yes, the art is official and made by klei artists. 

I added the link into my previous post. There is a channel that archives the streams so you can watch it any time. 

I've been looking through the stream a tiny bit [that means stopped at random times], and I must say....I kind of knew there was artwork that appeared in videos [from the galleries descriptions] but I didn't know you could actually watch them DRAW. Basically that means I could have all those years watch them draw to "learn" some digital techniques they use just by watching closely ;; Such missed opportunity!!! Maybe I will watch a bunch of videos some day only for considering them "art tutorials" x)

1 minute ago, Anis5240 said:

Real. He might be a failed scientist and some of his inventions have questionable ideas/thoughts behind the processes, but they did serve their job well enough. He canonically got ridiculed for making the gardeneer hat and the fire pump, yet they still have reasons and purposes. Same goes for the rain-o-meter and the thermal measurer.

Meanwhile what even the hell is the purpose of making a torch into a discount lantern???

And then people going to say "duplicating blueprints are so OP"  how is getting players to have teamwork for gathering materials to get such dupes is OP? This is Don't Starve Together; everything can be OP if needed.

EVERYTHING HERE, JUST EVERYTHING [<--- wait is this a Wilson making a blep? Angry tongue Wilson is probably my favourite emoticon now.]

[HowlVoid]

I always imagined Wilson could be like the Skylander popfizz. 

Except the transformations could be tied to his beard.

Skill 1) Beard tonic can be created and applied to a small beard. 

Small beard turns into a weapon in his hand that's does slightly less ham bat damage (50?) with durability that degrades overtime and when used. (Whatever was in his hands goes in his inventory or gets dropped)

Skill 2) Can apply tonic to medium beard.

Turns beard into a shield shape and gives Wilson extra hp (100?). Beard hp that goes over his normal hp. 

Skill 3) Can apply tonic to a large beard.

Turns beard into a beefalo that degrades over time. It deals 50 DMG, runs as fast as normal beef and has (150) hp that degrades over time.

When the beard undoes it's transformation it becomes frizzled and needs time to recover. You speed it up by brushing your beard.

This is just a stupid fun idea I had lmao

I know Walter has the beef thing but honestly we forget Walters exists so it's ok.

[NPCMaxwell]

8 minutes ago, HowlVoid said:

I always imagined Wilson could be like the Skylander popfizz. 

Except the transformations could be tied to his beard.

Skill 1) Beard tonic can be created and applied to a small beard. 

Small beard turns into a weapon in his hand that's does slightly less ham bat damage (50?) with durability that degrades overtime and when used. (Whatever was in his hands goes in his inventory or gets dropped)

Skill 2) Can apply tonic to medium beard.

Turns beard into a shield shape and gives Wilson extra hp (100?). Beard hp that goes over his normal hp. 

Skill 3) Can apply tonic to a large beard.

Turns beard into a beefalo that degrades over time. It deals 50 DMG, runs as fast as normal beef and has (150) hp that degrades over time.

When the beard undoes it's transformation it becomes frizzled and needs time to recover. You speed it up by brushing your beard.

This is just a stupid fun idea I had lmao

I know Walter has the beef thing but honestly we forget Walters exists so it's ok.

Maginificent beard but literally

[Anis5240]

19 minutes ago, HowlVoid said:

Beard hp that goes over his normal hp. 

Could be fun. I too had suggested a beard shield, but as expected from the forums, it got ridiculed.

That said, if Wurt can have extra "HP" from the wetness meter, why shouldn't Wilson? It can be played in the way if the beard HP got down to zero, his beard would be shaved and he will be left with some beard hair as compensation. Maybe one or two beard hairs only, of course.

[NPCMaxwell]

3 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

Could be fun. I too had suggested a beard shield, but as expected from the forums, it got ridiculed.

That said, if Wurt can have extra "HP" from the wetness meter, why shouldn't Wilson? It can be played in the way if the beard HP got down to zero, his beard would be shaved and he will be left with some beard hair as compensation. Maybe one or two beard hairs only, of course.

:/ Weird how the forum can ridicule a magical beard shield, but not a magical figurine that looks like Wilson and revives people with the power of beard and meat.

[Anis5240]

1 hour ago, NPCMaxwell said:

not a magical figurine that looks like Wilson and revives people with the power of beard and meat.

It's still not as used often as the life-giving amulet. The meat effigy, currently, is just "what else can I do with this excess beard hair from beardlings/beardlords/shadow splumonkeys". Sure, the LGA seems more expensive in terms of costs, but the ruins give more than enough basic gems already. And you can revive in the spot with the amulet, as opposed to being "teleported" to wherever the meat effigy was placed.

[NPCMaxwell]

2 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

It's still not as used often as the life-giving amulet. The meat effigy, currently, is just "what else can I do with this excess beard hair from beardlings/beardlords/shadow splumonkeys". Sure, the LGA seems more expensive in terms of costs, but the ruins give more than enough basic gems already. And you can revive in the spot with the amulet, as opposed to being "teleported" to wherever the meat effigy was placed.

Obviously, but what I meant was: If forum people laugh at a magical beard shield, they could as well LAUGH at Klei creating a magical item that also uses the power of beard. I really mean LAUGH at it in the sense of: This shouldn't even exist, it's too ridiculous / illogical

[Evelo]

(I throw my support at the "Wilson Redemption" cause)

[Gardrone]

I definitely think some suggested changes are a bit overkill, you have to remember that Wilson is a beginners character after all.
Saying that though, a buff to his torch path (and maybe even his beard path) would be wonderful (10 second longer torches isnt going to help even the newest of players.).

[Anis5240]

47 minutes ago, Gardrone said:

Wilson is a beginners character after all

Again, no such thing was ever applied to DST. In DS, yes sure. But we're talking about DST here. Wendy and Wigfrid do a better job at making new players wanting to engage with the mobs and combat.

So Willow getting free Dwarf Stars isn't overkill??? Despite just being the 2nd character??? Wow.

[HowlVoid]

6 hours ago, Gardrone said:

I definitely think some suggested changes are a bit overkill, you have to remember that Wilson is a beginners character after all.
Saying that though, a buff to his torch path (and maybe even his beard path) would be wonderful (10 second longer torches isnt going to help even the newest of players.).

DST has "tiers" for how much a character is able to survive. Wes being the weakest. There are other characters on the same tier as Wilson but with greater overall development (skills/perks).

[Mysterious box]

8 hours ago, Gardrone said:

I definitely think some suggested changes are a bit overkill, you have to remember that Wilson is a beginners character after all.
Saying that though, a buff to his torch path (and maybe even his beard path) would be wonderful (10 second longer torches isnt going to help even the newest of players.).

I would say Wendy is the main beginner character even many players who start with Wilson migrate over to her fairly quickly.

[Pe Dabliu]

I just hope that Wilson and Wolfgang get a second pass over their skill trees, kinda like wormwood had a lot of time of tweaking before reaching its peak. 

[RozeMeteor]

Wilson don't deserve the fate to be the basic character, and honestly his skill tree is far from being userfull to a begginer besides beard cuz winter, Klei made it clear this is DST not DS, the direction which game is moving is far diferent now. ''But wison is the failed scientist'' Willow isn't shoting fire from the eyes or creating baby stars on animations just like in the game as far as i know and she is the second unlock character in DS yet everyone seems fine. ''But wilson deserve to be neutral'' Nah.. play any other game with class system everyone has a diferent way to play or mess things and this don't take the fun out of it, being neutral just make characters more boring and being basic isn't be boring, gotta make this clear here. Before i would say let it stay where it is, but with every new update it becomes more evident how bad his whole tree was designed. And just to gather things, you open the game and everyone is unlocked from the start, anyone is better than him at everthing or simply offer much more value thought the game than him. I don't know how feel about the direction where skill trees are going because each one feel more like a experiment more than a final product and that's perfectly fine, as long it's said it will be looked upon angain in the future.

[Mysterious box]

4 minutes ago, RozeMeteor said:

But wison is the failed scientist''

As much as I like to joke about this too even this no longer applies considering he's canonically the inventor of some of the newer science crafts the survivors use.

[RozeMeteor]

9 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

As much as I like to joke about this too even this no longer applies considering he's canonically the inventor of some of the newer science crafts the survivors use.

i just used this up cuz other day i've seen people arguing on this,i will make it clear i mean no personal atacks too, after all the discursions around here can ben rather spiky sometimes. 

[Mysterious box]

1 minute ago, RozeMeteor said:

i just used this up cuz other day i've seen people arguing on this,i will make it clear i mean no personal atacks too, after all the discursions around here can ben rather spiky sometimes. 

Oh sorry I was just highlighting it wasn't calling you out or anything my bad.

[RozeMeteor]

4 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

Oh sorry I was just highlighting it wasn't calling you out or anything my bad.

Relax. i wasn't offended, you said nothing wrongh i just tought it could be important mention to anyone reading, i think most of the debates here could be friendlier yet a simple spark turn some topics into hell.

[Anis5240]

On 7/2/2024 at 4:12 AM, Anis5240 said:

And then people going to say "duplicating blueprints are so OP" 

I'm here just to revive the fact that Klei now made Winona can scan items (most notably the bundled gifts from Klaus) to make blueprints so y'know, this is Klei at its finest.

[Cruvimaster]

I would like a rework so that the conversions of some items are 1x1. For example, blue and red gems (1x1), orange and yellow gems (1x1) and many other things.

[Anis5240]

9 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said:

orange and yellow gems (1x1)

I'd rather like it if the ruins gems are 2x (2 orange -> 1 yellow and vice versa).

[cropo]

I like the idea of having his torch be able to be loaded with a buff, and when tossing it onto the ground all players around it get that buff. I call them banner torches, like lets say a sanity resistance banner torch that when standing near a thrown one(or Wilson carrying one) they get resistance to sanity auras. What buffs could be given would have to be ironed out, but I like the idea.

For his beard tree, I think Wilson should be able to animate his beard. Perhaps one side could turn it into a utility hand-slot instead of a 3-food slot. So for example you could put an umbrella on it, and his beard would hold the umbrella for you while keeping your hand free. Another possibility is to turn his beard into a weapon, giving it the ability to beard-whip enemies. His affinities can be a banner-related and beard-related skill.