Frosty_Mentos Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 Think of this... It's not a very appealing craft, it some things can break it and it needs decent setup to become a very good food source. 6 silk per craft is a bit much personally speaking, at least if early or midgame it needs so many boards and rope to set those up to actually want to use them. Rare that anyone even would consider building those since there's on hand easier food options, even if fish dishes are good the amount of time we need to put to set one up is much more worth to put into making other kinds of farms or just foraging. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 no. if anything the game needs more costly recipes, as mass-gathering ressources is easy with little to spend on. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1729844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 It should be more expensive It gives passive fish which can be used in some of the higher stat dishes, exchanged for gold by wurt or teleports with rockjaw, give you tons of thermal fishes and kois to get lucky gold nuggets for events and all of that at a cheap price and without interacting with fishing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1729897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted June 28, 2024 Author Share Posted June 28, 2024 10 hours ago, Well-met said: no. if anything the game needs more costly recipes, as mass-gathering ressources is easy with little to spend on. it still takes time to gather food with that structure, making a proper setup and hoping the fish would bait. It doesn't collect wobsters which sucks a bit. The cost is pretty high all together just to build one fish farm - some cost reduction is needed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1730043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 45 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: it still takes time to gather food with that structure, making a proper setup and hoping the fish would bait. It doesn't collect wobsters which sucks a bit. The cost is pretty high all together just to build one fish farm - some cost reduction is needed. I miss read the post. No, the price is really low for an infinite durability structure that allows you to ignore fishing while getting all the benefits with the only interaction of needing to check the nets whenever you remember If anything it should have higher cost Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1730050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro4 Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 No. Ocean Trawler is already good as-is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1730052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted June 29, 2024 Author Share Posted June 29, 2024 Well. Winona got her update with catapults killing fish for basically free and in big groups. Still being stubborn about the cost? I think there's a need for at least a small cost down. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1730605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 3 hours ago, Frosty_Mentos said: Well. Winona got her update with catapults killing fish for basically free and in big groups. Still being stubborn about the cost? I think there's a need for at least a small cost down. You could do the same with canons at a cheap price... A character getting a perk that, arguably is unbalanced or better than other options, doesnt mean everything should be buffed to be on par of that thing With that thinking we reached the current state of the game where some characters are reaching Wolfgang’s level of strength in fights and some of them way more utility which makes some fighting scenarios a joke Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1730690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted June 29, 2024 Author Share Posted June 29, 2024 1 hour ago, arubaro said: You could do the same with canons at a cheap price... A character getting a perk that, arguably is unbalanced or better than other options, doesnt mean everything should be buffed to be on par of that thing With that thinking we reached the current state of the game where some characters are reaching Wolfgang’s level of strength in fights and some of them way more utility which makes some fighting scenarios a joke Winona is beyond any character DPS strength wise unless goat jelly applied, but she requires careful setup at least for her to be meaningful. If we got stone fruits, kelps, shrooms for veggies then, moon stone, pig farms, beefalo to slaughter for meat, why should fish farms or things like Drying racks stay behind? Maybe they shouldn't. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1730730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 30, 2024 Share Posted June 30, 2024 On 6/29/2024 at 5:56 PM, Frosty_Mentos said: Well. Winona got her update with catapults killing fish for basically free and in big groups. Still being stubborn about the cost? I think there's a need for at least a small cost down. Thats how you start powercreep. Before you know it, we will be able to catch fish by pressing space bar. 22 hours ago, arubaro said: You could do the same with canons at a cheap price... No, thats not cheap. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1730984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 30, 2024 Share Posted June 30, 2024 10 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Thats how you start powercreep. Before you know it, we will be able to catch fish by pressing space bar. No, thats not cheap. How it isnt? We can argue that finding the island can take time but once you find it making canon balls are really cheap Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1730986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 30, 2024 Share Posted June 30, 2024 14 minutes ago, arubaro said: How it isnt? We can argue that finding the island can take time but once you find it making canon balls are really cheap Not really. Fishing normallynis way faster, cheaper, and superior. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1730990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 30, 2024 Share Posted June 30, 2024 52 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Not really. Fishing normallynis way faster, cheaper, and superior. I think you never tried. Spot a school, aim, kill ~3; ~4 or the entire school in one shot Fishing 1 fish can take minutes depending of the specie Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157601-all-things-considered-ocean-trawler-should-get-a-cost-down/#findComment-1731005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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