_zwb Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hungry French said: DS farms are fascinated by resource extraction. And does that have more depth compared to DST farming? No. Manure is also useful in DST farming for certain crops, like the mighty potato. Also maybe you should start your own thread Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hungry French said: DS farms are fascinated by resource extraction. Poop in DS good item for crafts Giant crop system is interesting and rewarding if you have time at base. If you don't, you can still get more yield than the old farms. Just plop down the seeds and give any type of compost. You don't even have to water them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, gamehun20 said: so you are going to collect berries? which give 9 food uncooked and 12.5 cooked with an added 1 points of healing instead of planting a few potatoes to gain 20 health and 25 food? Berries + Honey + cactus for vegetables. 1 minute ago, BalkanCockroach said: Giant crop system is interesting and rewarding if you have time at base. If you don't, you can still get more yield than the old farms. Just plop down the seeds and give any type of compost. You don't even have to water them. Cool system. Farms are still useless, but now ugly. Do I seriously have to spend a lot of time just gardening ? In DS, it would make sense, because there is NOTHING TO DO there. But in the DST, you can do other things than a useless vegetable garden. The vegetable garden is a decoration. No more. It is useful only if there are 20 people on the server and there is not enough food for everyone. I want old farms and new vegetables on them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Berries + Honey + cactus for vegetables. Cool system. Farms are still useless, but now ugly. Do I seriously have to spend a lot of time just gardening ? In DS, it would make sense, because there is NOTHING TO DO there. But in the DST, you can do other things than a useless vegetable garden. The vegetable garden is a decoration. No more. It is useful only if there are 20 people on the server and there is not enough food for everyone. I want old farms and new vegetables on them. It's not useless or time consuming, you just lack the brain power to find a use good use for it or you've never done farming and are complaining without knowledge about this topic. Everyone knows farming is great. Especially for winter since potato is a super food. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Can ya'll stop doing dumb useless debates in a thread that is supposed to be wholesome? -w- Ya'll kinda ruining the point of it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: Can ya'll stop doing dumb useless debates in a thread that is supposed to be wholesome? -w- Ya'll kinda ruining the point of it. Look at the title. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: It's not useless or time consuming, you just lack the brain power to find a use good use for it or you've never done farming and are complaining without knowledge about this topic. Everyone knows farming is great. Especially for winter since potato is a super food. If I want to eat, then there are berries for that. If I want to restore health or sanity, I have honey for this. And Eggplant is no weaker than potatoes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hungry French said: If I want to eat, then there are berries for that. If I want to restore health or sanity, I have honey for this. And Eggplant is no weaker than potatoes I'd argue honey is harder to amass and use than potatoes. You gotta build bee boxes, deal with bees, cook with the honey + no hone in winter + spring moment. When potato is just collect n cook. And eggplants is worse cause potato easier to amass. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hungry French said: If I want to restore health or sanity, I have honey for this. 2 more health than cooked berries wow Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 51 minutes ago, _zwb said: And does that have more depth compared to DST farming? No. Manure is also useful in DST farming for certain crops, like the mighty potato. Also maybe you should start your own thread Disable skill trees cool mode man Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenship2 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: Don't fall for that fool's trap ☠️ Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, gamehun20 said: 2 more health than cooked berries wow Crock Pot ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Crock Pot ? You have to use ingredients and filler for those. As for potato it's 25 health a pop. Potato superior time to drop the delusions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: I'd argue honey is harder to amass and use than potatoes. You gotta build bee boxes, deal with bees, cook with the honey + no hone in winter + spring moment. When potato is just collect n cook. And eggplants is worse cause potato easier to amass. There are millions of ways in the game to restore health. Farms optional mechanics. Honey harder to mass ? You can build 5 or even 10 bee boxes in 1 autumn. And eat only them. Bee boxes are very cheap and give honey without the presence of a player. Cactus too. You can get 30 pieces every 4 days and make perogies. And restore 15 sanity. Almost all the food that restores health is not balanced. Healing Salve and Healing Salve should be the main source of health restoration. Bundling Wrap is deprived of the only minus of all food - spoilage time Healing Salve 3 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: You have to use ingredients and filler for those. As for potato it's 25 health a pop. Potato superior time to drop the delusions. Is there not enough food for you in the game ? Or are there few sources of health recovery in the game ? If the potatoes are as strong as you say. It needs to be nerfed 8 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: You have to use ingredients and filler for those. As for potato it's 25 health a pop. Potato superior time to drop the delusions. Heney superior time to drop the delusions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Cactus too. You can get 30 pieces every 4 days and make perogies. And restore 15 sanity. are you being serious here? why would you use cactus of all things in Pierogi?? not only are you wasting health collecting cactus if you don't use bramble armor but you throw away the 15 sanity it gives?? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hungry French said: There are millions of ways in the game to restore health. Farms optional mechanics. Honey harder to mass ? You can build 5 or even 10 bee boxes in 1 autumn. And eat only them. Bee boxes are very cheap and give honey without the presence of a player. Cactus too. You can get 30 pieces every 4 days and make perogies. And restore 15 sanity. Almost all the food that restores health is not balanced. Healing Salve and Healing Salve should be the main source of health restoration. Bundling Wrap is deprived of the only minus of all food - spoilage time Healing Salve Is there not enough food for you in the game ? Or are there few sources of health recovery in the game ? If the potatoes are as strong as you say. It needs to be nerfed Cheapest pierogi costs you 2 monster meat 1 veg 1 ice. Cheapest potato costs you 1 seed and some time. Potato obtaining easier but you have to spend extra time on it. While for pierogi monster meat/meat is something that comes to you on its own. So it's balanced. It's just not bad like you claim thats all. In farming care=yield. Giants crops are good but they are worth just a little more time than you invest imo. But if you gotta feed the team and you have a wormwood then it's really good. But i play solo so i don't go for that. 3 minutes ago, gamehun20 said: are you being serious here? why would you use cactus of all things in Pierogi?? Im guilty of the same. It's a sin all oasis basers commit at some point. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: I'd argue honey is harder to amass and use than potatoes. You gotta build bee boxes, deal with bees, cook with the honey + no hone in winter + spring moment. When potato is just collect n cook. And eggplants is worse cause potato easier to amass. I highly disagree, honey is probably the most brain dead food source ever, and it’s so good I basically rely on it. All you need to do is set up 5-6 bee boxes (even less sometimes) a little bit away from your base and you have a food source that creates itself, produces a lot, and has a long spoilage time. It’s much easier to mass produce than potatoes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dextops said: I highly disagree, honey is probably the most brain dead food source ever, and it’s so good I basically rely on it. All you need to do is set up 5-6 bee boxes (even less sometimes) a little bit away from your base and you have a food source that creates itself, produces a lot, and has a long spoilage time. It’s much easier to mass produce than potatoes. No pollen? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Just now, gamehun20 said: are you being serious here? why would you use cactus of all things in Pierogi?? Because cactus grow by the dozens and they do not require anything from the player. The game has too much heal since beta Don't Starve. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 Also honey is useless on its own. Unless... taffy. And if i have meat pierogi is good enough. 1 minute ago, Hungry French said: Because cactus grow by the dozens and they do not require anything from the player. The game has too much heal since beta Don't Starve. Waaah waaaah i miss ye olden days so im cranky >:( Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: Cheapest pierogi costs you 2 monster meat 1 veg 1 ice. Cheapest potato costs you 1 seed and some time. Potato obtaining easier but you have to spend extra time on it. While for pierogi monster meat/meat is something that comes to you on its own. So it's balanced. It's just not bad like you claim thats all. In farming care=yield. Giants crops are good but they are worth just a little more time than you invest imo. But if you gotta feed the team and you have a wormwood then it's really good. But i play solo so i don't go for that. Yild = Extra food If vegetable gardens spend less time and produce more than other food sources, then they need to be weakened or removed. There is no variability. Vegetable gardens are either useless or unbalanced. I am engaged in vegetable gardens or not. It doesn't affect my game in any way. I built them in DS because they are beautiful and they spend even less of my time than in DST. In DST, both ugly and food are given less often and they can rot and at least some care is needed for them. And now there's nowhere to waste poop. 7 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: Also honey is useless on its own. Unless... taffy. And if i have meat pierogi is good enough. Waaah waaaah i miss ye olden days so im cranky >:( The old days were about survival, not about dominating nature and hunger. Now DST is stupid boss rush. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Hungry French said: now there's nowhere to waste poop Burn them in the new COTL shrine for sanity. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 And in general, the conversation is stupid. You talk potato op. I say honey and cactus op. All. And we can't prove anything to each other. In order to prove something, we have to do large-scale tests, determine the conditions for their implementation and spend a lot of time so that we both find a truthful answer that is better I personally don't have the time and opportunity to waste time and opportunity on this. It is necessary to use all the sources of heal that exist in the game. Otherwise, the game will turn into monotonous and dull ****. What are speedrun tactics like in DST. 5 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: Burn them in the new COTL shrine for sanity. Only if I want a sheep skin for a bonfire Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hungry French said: cactus op I agree cactus is pretty good. Even when someone says something is op tho it really isn't. Nothing in this game is that op. Cause they balance it out quick. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hungry French said: You talk potato op. never said it's op it's strong, not op Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152429-klei-appreciation-postnt/page/3/#findComment-1679899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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