Willow's Pyromaniac ReRefresh Ideas (Updated)

[Evelo]

21 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

The TL:DR Bernie is triggered by Willows state of Mind, therefore.. Willows Fire Immunity is also triggered by her mind. Willows not a Pyromancer, she’s simply a Pyromaniac with Telekinetic powers that could LEAD to Pyromancer. 

my mistake I typed Pyromancer because I was playing against a Kael'thas in HotS. I meant to type Pyromaniac. I think Bernie is just a figment of her imagination to deal with the shadows. Fire immunity might be because she is maybe severely burned.

[lakhnish]

Give Willow a pyro meter that she can do stuff with and all will be solved (I'm half joking, but Klei seems to excel with meters and imo, do make it easier to see what that character is all about).

[Nikki Darks]

All Willow needs to be a true "Fire Starter" character like her title says...

Is for her DS downside to come back. It's a perfect downside, but people cry too hard over it.

[maxwell_winters]

13 minutes ago, Nikki Darks said:

Is for her DS downside to come back. It's a perfect downside, but people cry too hard over it.

If it comes back, Willows are gonna get kicked from every public server and I won't even judge people for doing that.

[-Variant]

18 minutes ago, Nikki Darks said:

Is for her DS downside to come back. It's a perfect downside, but people cry too hard over it.

Yes, to the first half, MAJOR no to this.

There are a million and two ways to make her a fun fire-based character but randomly starting fires out of the player's control is not one of them.

This would turn the myth of being banned out the gate into a reality and that's the last thing Willow needs. Most players aren't adapt enough to control their sanity at reasonable levels and even if the cap was lowered it still wouldn't be fair to most players, especially in a group setting.

[Nikki Darks]

7 minutes ago, maxwell_winters said:

If it comes back, Willows are gonna get kicked from every public server and I won't even judge people for doing that.

This is based purely off of how I play and how I think the game should be handled.

Griefing shouldn't be considered while creating a COOP game.

And public servers are public servers. You can't control what players will do and who players will ban/kick or get angry with.

I play with people I know and I am sure will not be whiny crybabies. \o /

 

3 minutes ago, -Variant said:

Yes, to the first half, MAJOR no to this.

There are a million and two ways to make her a fun fire-based character but randomly starting fires out of the player's control is not one of them.

This would turn the myth of being banned out the gate into a reality and that's the last thing Willow needs. Most players aren't adapt enough to control their sanity at reasonable levels and even if the cap was lowered it still wouldn't be fair to most players, especially in a group setting.

I've yet to see a suggestiong for a "fire related" Willow perk that isn't weird pyrokinetic magic, being able to PREVENT fires more conveniently than others (Fire Starter character btw) or a weird, tame perk that's just walking circles around the fact that fire is primarily a danger.

I will never see a "Fire Starter" character whose quotes talk about "preferring" things when they burn, wanting things to get burnt/destroyed... As a character whose gameplay revolves around using their fire related perks as means to make fire less destructive. ;-; 

Also, this next bit is just how I perceive the character.

Willow. Isn't. A. Fire. Witch. Or. A. Pyromancer.

She's a pyromanic firestarter who is immune to fire.

But das it from me .3.

Also Bernie was a great addition which added more personality and depth to Willow as a character.

Bernie best boy.

[maxwell_winters]

Just now, Nikki Darks said:

Griefing shouldn't be considered while creating a COOP game.

Exactly, this is a coop game and no one wants their based to be burned because of one character. In a coop setting, I wouldn't let my partners play Willow. It would be too much risk for nothing since her multiplayer kit is currently lacking.