There should be a book reader shadow

[abrocator]

Book reader shadow: reads the spell prior to the spell that summoned him. For example:

1. Shadow duelist
2. Shadow caster (book reader)

Then the shadow caster will cast Shadow duelist.

How is it triggered? Either:

1. Automatically as soon as the shadow dies (or recast prison on the same spot)
2. A dedicated hotkey which has no animation, just an audio cue. So Maxwell can keep hitting the enemy (for example) and still cast new spells

I personally like number 2 since it would take more skill. I wonder how simple it would be to implement though.

[Cheggf]

You can cast shadow prison to be able to safely summon your duelists. The duelists also typically hold enough aggro for you to summon more if you start summoning with at least a few left.

[z3rox12]

shadow caster should probably be  a ranged attacker, leave support to maxwell as that is the role of the summoner.

[edulopes]

2 hours ago, abrocator said:

Book reader shadow: reads the spell prior to the spell that summoned him. For example:

1. Shadow duelist
2. Shadow caster (book reader)

Then the shadow caster will cast Shadow duelist.

How is it triggered? Either:

1. Automatically as soon as the shadow dies (or recast prison on the same spot)
2. A dedicated hotkey which has no animation, just an audio cue. So Maxwell can keep hitting the enemy (for example) and still cast new spells

I personally like number 2 since it would take more skill. I wonder how simple it would be to implement though.

sorry but that is maxwell job, think about that, he fragments his mind, if a fragment makes an fragment that would be an terrible shadow, so in theory think about the clone of the clone

 

1 hour ago, Cheggf said:

You can cast shadow prison to be able to safely summon your duelists. The duelists also typically hold enough aggro for you to summon more if you start summoning with at least a few left.

but the cast timers should be the same as wickers, or wicker's should have the same as maxwell

[Cheggf]

3 minutes ago, edulopes said:

but the cast timers should be the same as wickers, or wicker's should have the same as maxwell

Wicker's spells are mostly out of combat things and her combat related ones are worthless by comparison.

[edulopes]

Just now, Cheggf said:

Wicker's spells are mostly out of combat things and her combat related ones are worthless by comparison.

so i see no problem to nerf wicker cast  

because it is still posssible to a shadow spawn when you are casting,( before totally insane) and get you, happens to me some times

1 minute ago, edulopes said:

( before totally insane)

for wicker, but was under 35 san for maxwell on cast
i was even casting shadow sneak

[Cheggf]

Just now, edulopes said:

so i see no problem to nerf wicker cast  

I don't see the point of making someone who is bad at something even worse at it.

[edulopes]

what? wicker is second best caracter in game????????

[abrocator]

13 minutes ago, edulopes said:

sorry but that is maxwell job, think about that, he fragments his mind, if a fragment makes an fragment that would be an terrible shadow, so in theory think about the clone of the clone

He’s a delegate so he fragments Maxwell’s mind for him.

 

2 hours ago, Cheggf said:

You can cast shadow prison to be able to safely summon your duelists. The duelists also typically hold enough aggro for you to summon more if you start summoning with at least a few left.

Aren’t people struggling a bit with maintaining the prison on DF?

I think Maxwell seems too vanilla right now. But it’s hard to introduce something more involved with the limited controls.

[edulopes]

1 minute ago, abrocator said:

He’s a delegate so he fragments Maxwell’s mind for him.

hmmm i dont know, it is an good idea, but it feels wrong, even i that want some maxwell love, i just dont know, but thanks for the idea

8 minutes ago, edulopes said:

what? wicker is second best caracter in game????????

i wont even continue this line of topic because we will go off topic

[Cheggf]

14 minutes ago, abrocator said:

Aren’t people struggling a bit with maintaining the prison on DF?

Idk I never tried the prison on her because I like playing the game instead of holding f. She's why I said that the duelists usually keep you safe. I think I got hit while casting once.

15 minutes ago, abrocator said:

I think Maxwell seems too vanilla right now.

"Need to find some way to incorporate long casts into combat with a variety of tools to help you do so" is way less vanilla than "Wilson but more damage is automatically being applied to the enemies with no thought or input from yourself". Maxwell currently is by far the most unique fighter in the game, and I'd even go so far as to say most unique character full stop. He does almost everything so differently from the rest of the roster.