Console Fuelweaver fight

[jellybeankilla]

Hey everyone I just had a quick question about Fw. Since practicing the fight a bit on ps4 I’ve noticed the fight seems like a total stand still if you don’t play with characters who have modifiers. Wigfrid Wolfgang and warly because of the damage they can dish out the fight is ok. If fw eats one or two shadow creatures it’s fine because I can out damage it and win the phase. However, trying this with a normal character seems impossible. For whatever reason the “use gadget”button and the “unlock target” button are the same on ps4 so like always I have to get face to face with the monster to clear the creatures. I fight a patient fight so I’ll kite fw around the arena so that I end the shadow hands phase and the unseen hand phase around the same time but when you get him low health and the time between the phases began to decrease its total madness lol. The weather pain issue is simply too unbearable. I can’t  even find anyone who does it legit anymore everyone seems to be fine with cheesing him at this point and I don’t enjoy that. Are their any tips I’m missing with the weather pain usage in this fight? The fight on pc is a cake walk it’s crazy how dramatic of a change the fight is when I try it on my ps4. Locking on and off of fw is a problem even on attempts where I spawn little to no nightmare creatures the shadow creatures are too annoying and he eats them two at a time it looks like sometimes . Any tips would be helpful if it has nothing to do with cheeesing the fight I’m not interested in that I want to master soloing this fight on console even tho most ppl say it’s impossible. 

 

[BeeClops]

yep played on both and the fight is much more difficult on console. I have never achieved it with normal damage character, but I have friend who does it consistently it seems lately, maybe I can ask him to give his tips. 

The way I do it is by staying glued to FW to be able to cast weather pains, and do it with target lock off. But again, I was only able to do it with serious damage buffs. 

[Cannoli]

14 hours ago, jellybeankilla said:

 The weather pain issue is simply too unbearable.

Fuelweaver on PS4 = Catapults.

Don't be ashamed to cheese a boss who cheese you.

And give up any tips to use weather pain on consoles until Klei fix it.

[Peyo33]

You can't use Wheater Pain properly.. It's a pain in the ass, i try every time to ask Klei to do something about but i guess that they don't care much about console player. By the way there is an option that can help you to deal with mobs, i disabled the auto-target feature (or something like that) so you don't have to get closer/insta follow always to a specific mob to attack.

[Fatkitty]

Doing it alone on the PS4 even with a character that has modifiers is an absolute nightmare on the PS4. Without modifiers, it is doable but takes some serious prep, discipline and even luck. 

The main issue with the PS4 fight is the target locking system and the speed in which it takes to switch between items. On my account, I have turned off the auto lock feature in settings. I can't quite remember what it said, but if you go to settings there is something that will disable the auto lock targeting. This has helped to some degree. PC players are able to switch between the nightmare amulet/lazy explorer/ weather pain almost instantaneously, with the console it takes a few seconds at best if you have your inventory arranged nicely. 

I do not think that we will ever have it as easy as PC players. That is just an inherent part of playing on the console. Aiming anything in any game on the PC is way easier than on a PS4. With that being said, I think the weather pain does have some flaws and it is cumbersome to use. I think that it should be able to be cast directionally, regardless of if it has a target or not. I even think the Lazy explorer is a difficult use on consoles. 

[Mj-]

I'm ashamed to say this, but after 3k in this game, I never fought him the way it was designed! I always cheese him with the eye thing... until we get a "rework" for the WP I don't see myself actually fighting him legitimately. x(

[Fatkitty]

I just thought of something. The best and easiest way to fix this is to make the fuelweaver not targetable when he has that shield around him. 

Similar to how trees are where you can’t auto lock when attacking, but you can cast the weather pain on them. Or at the very least you could just use it in his general direction without him as a target. 

Either way disabling him as a target in his protected phase solves 99% of the problem. There are dudes on YouTube who speed run the fuel weaver on PC without a weather pain and they do it by individually killing each of his little bug things. Not having to auto lock him will allow console players the flexibility to fight him the way PC players can. 

Disabling him as a target when he is protected doesn’t really harm anything. He’s still invulnerable and at least we don’t have to bounce off of him every time we attempt to smack something else. 

[BeeClops]

16 hours ago, Fatkitty said:

I just thought of something. The best and easiest way to fix this is to make the fuelweaver not targetable when he has that shield around him. 

Similar to how trees are where you can’t auto lock when attacking, but you can cast the weather pain on them. Or at the very least you could just use it in his general direction without him as a target. 

Either way disabling him as a target in his protected phase solves 99% of the problem. There are dudes on YouTube who speed run the fuel weaver on PC without a weather pain and they do it by individually killing each of his little bug things. Not having to auto lock him will allow console players the flexibility to fight him the way PC players can. 

Disabling him as a target when he is protected doesn’t really harm anything. He’s still invulnerable and at least we don’t have to bounce off of him every time we attempt to smack something else. 

solid suggestion I agree