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So while i have a basic large-picture understanding of SHC/TC, I'm still wrapping my head around the actual practical mechanics so that I can be more precise in what I'm doing. I say this as reason for my ignorance to not knowing the answer to this question:

I've seen a few posts around taming the niobium volcano which involves creating the usual AT/ST kind of cooling loop to cool liquid niobium to solid and then some so that it's safe to move around and use. This feels like it's wasting the heat that could be used for something useful like a petroleum boiler.

So why I haven't I seen a variant of a petroleum boiler using liquid niobium from the niobium volcano? Is liquid niobium less viable for this than magma? If you touch the ever-growing liquid output of a niobium volcano to a diamond window/metal door/metal tile petroleum boiler set up, would it just not be able to keep up bc of the lower SHC?

I'm contemplating experimenting with this, but I don't want to do it if it's a non-starter.

I think the simple reason is that we usually taming nioboum volcano on superconductive asteroid and there is no water geyser/ oil wells/fissures there. Shipping crude oil to the asteroid cost too much. I'm not saying it can't be done. It is not a easy setup if you don't have these geysers/volcano nearby.

there are multiple sources of heat on almost every asteroid; if not, a rocket can be used to create a heat for boiling.

In fact, my best oil boiler design was a simple one using petrol rocket heat. (in the spoiler)

There is no need to cool produced oil down as the petrol rocket accept oil at any temperature. I just dumped the heat to create electricity (through AT/ST).

There is a heat accumulator under the rocket pad (steam at high pressure incased in diamond windows - both steam and diamond have great heat capacity).

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yah i know that I can generate heat or find heat easily enough, the question comes more from the idea that simply deleting the heat from liquid niobium/tungsten volcano is wasting that heat potential for other uses. But yeah, the practical aspect of where those volcanoes live versus the home planet might not make it viable.

Still, i'm itching to experiment with it, so i may play around in sandbox and then see if i can tap into something in my actual game.

Generally, you use the heat generated by Niobium volcano to cool down the niobium and send it by the interplanetary launcher.

So the asteroid can be fully automated. It does not have much heat energy though. The Ni volcano itself does not keep two ST generating at 100%; It is barely 1000w that can be just enough for the automation. I had to add solar panels after I run out of magma heat to keep AT cooling down the system.

All these volcanoes (Iron, W, Niobium) can support less than 2 STs. 

Gold and Cu is a bit worse and can be run on one ST.

The Niobium volcano puts out a volume similar to a minor volcano.  Igneous rock has about 3.8 times the SHC as niobium although the niobium comes out at a higher temp.  So while it sounds great to use the niobium to boil petroleum, you're getting less than half the heat of a minor volcano.  Plus the effort of getting the crude oil to the same location as the volcano.  And then... you need to actually build a working boiler with the niobium somehow.  

In spite of high temperature, the heat produced is not great due to low volume (comparatively).

Here it is

Niobium volcano itself and you can see that two STs are at about 500 watt together (200+300); it goes up at volcano eruption but only to 1000 max

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And here is tungsten volcano and again even two STs are not running at 100% and I am still taking some heat from magma leftover.

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