Make Wanda a little less selfish of a survivor.

[Ketrai]

NOTE - This mostly just points at the early game of wanda, and enjoying servers in the presence of random people. 

All in all, wanda is a great survivor for the late game. Between offering teleports and free revives, they can bring some unique features to the team. However... The early game can be less than enjoyable.

I'm not talking about their difficulty as a character, but rather the fact she relies on rare resources that are rather hard to get in the early game, and during certain seasons. Not to mention that other Wandas can make life rather unpleasant for one another because of this.

TL;DR. Make her crafting materials a bit more reliable by offering alternative sources in the early game. & Let others activate her backtrek watch with a purple gem.

Red gems. - Your main source of these early game are graves. Not only is this RNG dependent, once dug up those gems are basically the only ones you'll get from this source. Past the initial graves, you'll have to look to less reliable sources such as earthquakes, stalagmites/tites, broken clockworks, and nightmare statues. There's also the lesser known spawns from hound mounds after day 14 in autumn and summer, but that's a small window of time. Or the dumbest way, begging a ghost to haunt hounds until they become fire hounds. Now it's still relatively easy to get to the ruins... granted you're still in autumn. But once the first winter hits it really isn't as easy anymore to get to the ruins. Especially since it can rain in the caves at any time in winter, drastically reducing the amount of time you can spend away from a fire. In a season everyone is already competing over resources. You're also taking away resources for scaled furnace, and purple gems in general. And not every wanda is a skilled player that can just go and empty the ruins.

Marble. - This is pretty abundant early game. It's easy to find 20-60 marble on the surface in any given world. But the issue is that if no one replants these, they become a question of breaking statues during a new moon, or getting earthquake RNG. People can easily mess up wanda by making marble suits for firefly or other wandas making their stuff. 

Thulecite. - No issue here really. There's a ridiculous amount of the stuff spread between the ruins and the archives.

Tusks. - Klei for the love of god change the minimum amount of camps from 1 to 3. Because everyone loves canes, and wandas love backtrek watches. If you get one camp? Let's say you're somewhat adamant about hunting them every 3 days, you'll get about 4 mctusks in a winter. With an average of 2 tusks dropped. Now assuming everyone wants a cane. That's a backtrek watch and a cane for a Wanda. After that there's a period of MORE THAN 7 HOURS, before ANYONE can get more tusks. This is one of the most contested items in the game, I've seen random servers restart worlds just because there were too few mctusks. 

Other than that, why can't backtrek watches be used by other survivors? At least when socketed with a purple gem? This makes them completely reliant on having a Wanda on the server, but also that Wanda being present. Like sure it encourages cooperation and travelling together.. But uh, at the same time it also encourages the opposite. Wigfrid's gear isn't exclusive to Wigfrid. Webber's main products, silk & MM can be used by everyone. Warly benefits the least of his own dishes just because of hunger-efficiency alone, so he might as well share. Wendy is amazing at farming drops in general. Meanwhile wanda is about as good a fighter as wolfgang that has a hard time letting others use their stuff/resources. She's not as bad as WX in that regard, but it's still meh

[Mike23Ua]

A question I must ask: when you say every one is competing over resources, exactly how many players are you talking about? Over on Xbox Series X our max amount of players allowed caps out at 6- and even with a server full of 6 Wanda’s there’s plenty of resources to go around for everyone.

Ive heard rumors of 20+ player servers and I would imagine that to be pure unfun Chaos, But with a cap of 6.. Most the time our worlds can feel like a ghost town you will rarely If ever see other players while out on adventures.

Now I have no earthly clue how those worlds with 20+ Players Running around must be like, but I know Klei designs all content around what’s available on all platforms (in other words, they don’t design it with the thought of 20 players in one world, they design it with the default cap of 6)

I would only imagine that those type of worlds would be significantly larger with resources set to more.. right?

Red Gems aren’t to hard to Obtain neither is any of her other ingredients like Marble or Purple gems, the one thing that “MIGHT” be a problem is the Thelucite but… as I stated in my other thread we have no clue if Klei doesn’t have plans to also make that resource more readily available in a future update as well.

The past two updates- Webber’s Refresh followed by Water-Logged Update: Added a new character, and then also a new biome that added new content for that character (Water Spiders) So it isn’t entirely out of the question that First we get Wanda… and then we get an update intended to interact with Wanda.

[Yuuko]

I know a lot of people have really criticized Klei for making "pick and switch" characters, especially with Winona.  I think its fitting that Wanda's watches are all exclusive to her use.  I could see the Rift Watch being a unique exception though - as its powered by a purple gem, and single use requiring Wanda to craft it again each time.  Yes Wanda could be a pick and switch for these watches, but I think she has enough tools that are still unique to her that it could change...  But I wouldn't push too hard for it myself.

Its easier for Wanda to beg players to do ghost things because she can already have a second chance watch ready, with no death penalty associated with it.  If no one is doing ruins and the graves didn't yield enough, I think its fair to say team up with someone to haunt the hounds for some red gems.  I think the second chance watch takes the edge off of most ghost strats, so if you need to farm meat / pig skins, set up evil flower station, etc go for it.

You can set MacTusks to More in your worldgen.  I found out Glermz does this to make sure they can farm more tusks for everyone.  No shame in doing that - its actually a lot more challenging AND rewarding to do this.

[Hornete]

27 minutes ago, Ketrai said:

Tusks. - Klei for the love of god change the minimum amount of camps from 1 to 3. Because everyone loves canes, and wandas love backtrek watches. If you get one camp? Let's say you're somewhat adamant about hunting them every 3 days, you'll get about 4 mctusks in a winter. With an average of 2 tusks dropped. Now assuming everyone wants a cane. That's a backtrek watch and a cane for a Wanda. After that there's a period of MORE THAN 7 HOURS, before ANYONE can get more tusks. This is one of the most contested items in the game, I've seen random servers restart worlds just because there were too few mctusks. 

I think something that could be nice is if Sunken Chests had Tusks instead of canes. They've actually been an amazing source of canes for me and my friends in this world, I believe we've gotten 6+ sunken chests with canes in them which is pretty awesome. If they had tusks instead of canes, it wouldn't change much for other characters, but for Wanda it'd be a nice secondary source of tusks for the rest of the year.

[Well-met]

imo red gem drop chance from fire hound should just be higher

[Primalflower]

20 hours ago, Ketrai said:

Tusks.

go treasure hunting and you will get canes that can be deconstructed into tusks for wanda. its a lot more reliable than it sounds

[Ketrai]

On 9/16/2021 at 7:08 PM, Primalflower said:

go treasure hunting and you will get canes that can be deconstructed into tusks for wanda. its a lot more reliable than it sounds

It's sadly very hard to get randoms to do help do anything on the sea.