kbn Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 In the sandbox, we have created a farm to grow 200 blossoms. Copy this to make two farms. The upper farm has 4 experts from "Agriculture: 13 (+43% Seed Chance)". The lower farm has 4 amateurs from "Agriculture: 2 (+7% Seed Chance)". About 33 cycles have passed and both farms have harvested 1000 kg of bristle berries (200 x 5 harvests) However, the number of seeds I got ... Upper farm (expert) → Seeds x 98 Lower farm (amateur) → Seeds x 116 What exactly is "Seed Chance"? Or am I overlooking something? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118312-how-does-the-seed-chance-bonus-from-the-agriculture-skill-work/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I believe it's supposed to work like this: 10% chance + 42.9% bonus = 14.3% seed chance per harvest (you got 9.8%) 10% chance + 6.7% bonus = 10.7% seed chance per harvest (you got 11.6%) Simulating in Excel, ±2σ range is about: Expert 12.5%-16%, Amateur 9%-12.5% I can't see how you can get those results either. I guess a bug or methods problem. Can you post the save file? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118312-how-does-the-seed-chance-bonus-from-the-agriculture-skill-work/#findComment-1334385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbn Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 55 minutes ago, nakomaru said: Can you post the save file? This is the save file. before:彗星.sav after:彗星_pro_ama.sav As far as I can remember, the few user actions I've taken between before and after are: - The schedule was divided into two. - Large amount of oxylite tiles were placed outside the farm to secure oxygen. - We blocked the outer space with Neutronium so that oxygen would not escape. Other than that, I probably didn't do anything else. Oh, and amateur groups were initially "Agriculture: 0". It seems that it was raised to "Agriculture: 2" by the harvesting work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118312-how-does-the-seed-chance-bonus-from-the-agriculture-skill-work/#findComment-1334401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Expert 10.7%, Amateur 10.9%. Perhaps there is no effect of skill on seed chance. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118312-how-does-the-seed-chance-bonus-from-the-agriculture-skill-work/#findComment-1334409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbn Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, nakomaru said: Expert 10.7%, Amateur 10.9%. Perhaps there is no effect of skill on seed chance. I see, uh ... I'm not sure, but it feels like a bug, so I'll post it on the bug tracker. Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118312-how-does-the-seed-chance-bonus-from-the-agriculture-skill-work/#findComment-1334430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zergologist Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Perhaps the extra .2% on the amateur was beginners luck. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118312-how-does-the-seed-chance-bonus-from-the-agriculture-skill-work/#findComment-1334434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Looks very much like a bug to me. I had been wondering about this from casual observations but never found the motivation to do a real test. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118312-how-does-the-seed-chance-bonus-from-the-agriculture-skill-work/#findComment-1334439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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