caffeinated21 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Can’t seem to find the data anywhere. Want to figure out exactly what I can cook up... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yalp Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 The 3x9 area below the rocket? Steam ~155 MDTU Petroleum ~ 550 - 625 MDTU H2 ~ 740 - 825 MDTU Lower end of those numbers are Launches, upper end are returning Rockets. Testing was done in QOL3 or LU iirc. All Rockets' maximum heating temperature is 3200 K. If you are talking about the exhaust, that's highly dependent on the distance between launch pad and map border. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/#findComment-1297965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I saw a video on youtube last week by that John what's-his-name? He launched a hydrogen rocket from a tunnel going down to the bottom of the map and let it heat the steam and CO2 all the way up. It was fully powering like a dozen steam turbines. I just have 3 steam turbines that aren't running very hard to mop up the heat collected by petrol from under my two rockets, plus cool down the LOX. 13 minutes ago, Yalp said: Petroleum ~ 550 - 625 MDTU I think this is a little low. If I did my math correctly, the 740 kg per tile of petrol I have in the 3x9 under my rocket should only be heated by 17 degrees, but iirc, it goes up by about 30 degrees. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/#findComment-1297968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yalp Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 14 hours ago, psusi said: I think this is a little low. If I did my math correctly, the 740 kg per tile of petrol I have in the 3x9 under my rocket should only be heated by 17 degrees, but iirc, it goes up by about 30 degrees. That's the number the game tells you (well, the difference before and after the rocket start/landing). Game might be lying... Steam is also the game's numbers. I only did a thorough test on h2. Here's the energy distribution in the 3x9 block below the rocket for h2: Spoiler One more thing: Rocket composition (including solid fuel thrusters) and travel distance had no influence. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/#findComment-1297973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caffeinated21 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 If a tile is vacuum, or @ max temp, does the heat get distributed to the other tiles. Or is just a per-tile heating? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/#findComment-1297981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yalp Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Vacuum can't be heated, no heat is generated / potential heat is lost. Tiles at max. temp. will exchange heat like any others. If the tile is heated more quickly than it can transfer the energy away the excess is lost. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/#findComment-1297992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caffeinated21 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Yep- understand that vacuum doesn’t transfer or hold heat. Was curious whether the rocket put out a fixed number of DTUs that we’re then distributed amongst the tiles, so that ‘missing’ tiles meant more heat elsewhere. It’s seems not from what I’m hearing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/#findComment-1297998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Yalp said: Game might be lying... Steam is also the game's numbers There might not even be a game... this all might just be in your imagination... I also have no idea how to interpret the block of percentages you posted. 2 hours ago, Yalp said: One more thing: Rocket composition (including solid fuel thrusters) and travel distance had no influence. Are you sure? Someone was claiming earlier in another thread that they get more heat by putting 5 unfueled boosters on the rocket. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/#findComment-1298006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yalp Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 12 hours ago, psusi said: I also have no idea how to interpret the block of percentages you posted. The rocket generates ~740 - 825 MDTU in the 3x9 block, the % in the picture shows the distribution of that energy in the block. Maybe the actual numbers in DTU are easier to understand: Spoiler 12 hours ago, psusi said: Are you sure? Someone was claiming earlier in another thread that they get more heat by putting 5 unfueled boosters on the rocket. Might have been only one booster in the test and the result's deviation was less or similar to that of a rocket started multiple times from the exact same save file. Edit: Still had the test map, did a retest, 5 sfb with or without fuel, it makes no difference. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/#findComment-1298140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Yalp said: The rocket generates ~740 - 825 MDTU in the 3x9 block, the % in the picture shows the distribution of that energy in the block. Maybe the actual numbers in DTU are easier to understand: Ahh, interesting.. I didn't know it tended to be more in the center than the sides. It is important to note however, that the heat isn't limited to this 3x9: it puts out heat the whole way up and the 3x9 just moves higher. That's why the lower levels below the launch point get less heat. The booster may not add heat below the rocket, but still may add it to the gas in the path on the way up. Try launching the rocket in a long launch tube with doors at the top to try and keep the gas in, and keep the area filled with gas. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/114886-dtu-rocket-launch/#findComment-1298228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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