Inbalanced input to balanced output

[GemeinerJack]

Okay, i am trying a new base design and i was wondering how to balance pipe loads, after a bit of testing with valves i couldn't get it to work the way i wanted.

So now for the challenge for the real pros out there, my problem extremly simplified: 10 SPOMs (8,88 kg of oxygen per second) equally balanced to 9 outputs so that 9 seperated and isolated rooms have the same pressure after 100 kg of water run trough every single on of them. (so 1000 kg altogether)

 

[Christophlette]

49 minutes ago, GemeinerJack said:

Okay, i am trying a new base design and i was wondering how to balance pipe loads, after a bit of testing with valves i couldn't get it to work the way i wanted.

So now for the challenge for the real pros out there, my problem extremly simplified: 10 SPOMs (8,88 kg of oxygen per second) equally balanced to 9 outputs so that 9 seperated and isolated rooms have the same pressure after 100 kg of water run trough every single on of them. (so 1000 kg altogether)

 

I didn't tested it or something but still here is a hint (maybe) :

A 10 to 9 converter can be simplified to ten 1 to 9 converters.

So you want to split an electrolyser to a gas bridge leading to three pipes then a gas bridges for each pipe leading to three other pipes each.

In ghost build : 

(The drecko you see came with the idea. Of course.)

So you'd have 10 of these things... Then merge every first output together. Every second output together and so on.

There is certainly a way to simplify the monstruosity that it represents. But it's a start !  

[GemeinerJack]

Okay, in theorie working...

First praxis test: 100 kg oxygen -> result: 1x 11.5kg, 1x11.3kg, 1x11.2kg, 6x11kg
Equal split, nice

Removing one reciepent (because oversupply or what ever) the other 2 get extra, so no longer even split, sad, but to be expected, at least, every one else still goes up to around 11, so even if some get oversupplied, nobody goes undersupplied

But that thing is 20x26 tiles big, so i would use an area of 20x260 just to have the splitter in place...

How high was the map again? 255? *sigh*

[Christophlette]

Or you could make that kind of ugly room... It's way more space efficient than a 20x260 room but oh god it's ugly...

[GemeinerJack]

To be honest, i prefer your first idea alot more

One of the biggest selling points of your first idea was the "mechanical balancing" only, without any energy cost and not needing more then 2 steam turbines worth of energy production just for balancing inputs

[Lawnmower Man]

 

Cascade the input pipes with bridges, and valve the outputs to the desired flow rate.  As you can see, the first two pipes from the left get the full flow from their SPOMs.  Then, the next two pipes try to give all their output to the first two, but that only works up to the valve limit.  They are now left short-handed, but their neighbors to the right come in to save the day!  The last pipe gives all his output to his two left neighbors.

You can probably get away with compressing the grid by moving some of the bridges higher.  This just illustrates the concept.

However, I am at a loss to understand where you get the water to run 10 electrolyzers, and what you are going to do with all that O2?  I assume these won't run continuously, and you are trying to build a LOX setup for a rocket?  Or are you really running a colony with 88 dupes??

[Craigjw]

I'm failing on the basic math of this problem, you are saying that you have 10 SPOM's, that's 10 electrolyzers.  However, I have looked at your initial idea above and you have a single pipe as the source, which would imply that you don't have 10 SPOM's, but rather 1, because to output 100% of the O2 from each SPOM, you'd need at least 9 input pipes to handle the 8.88kg/s of O2, as a single pipe can only handle 1kg and a SPOM's output is 880g/s

Plus, how many dupes are you trying to feed, 80-ish at a guess?

[Christophlette]

2 minutes ago, Craigjw said:

I'm failing on the basic math of this problem, you are saying that you have 10 SPOM's, that's 10 electrolyzers.  However, I have looked at your initial idea above and you have a single pipe as the source, which would imply that you don't have 10 SPOM's, but rather 1, because to output 100% of the O2 from each SPOM, you'd need at least 9 input pipes to handle the 8.88kg/s of O2, as a single pipe can only handle 1kg and a SPOM's output is 880g/s

Plus, how many dupes are you trying to feed, 80-ish at a guess?

The screen showing only one input pipe is normal. That's why he needs 10 times that screen and it becomes absurd in size.

I think he's trying to make a lot of liquid O2 for rockets. But only him can confirm.

[Craigjw]

I think that might be the case.  I actually have 11 electrolyzers pumping out O2 in my present colony, however, only 3 are dedicated to the bases O2, of which 1 of them is for balance, which ensures the first 2 supply a constant 1kg/s of O2 to their respective outputs.  The remaining 8 electrolyzers are for rocketry and any spare O2 that I don't need for Liquid O2 or cooling, I dump straight into space.

 

[GemeinerJack]

72 dupes in 8-9 different isolated rooms + some spare for rockets

so your guess was pretty accurate

And that picture i posted was splittiing it up as 10 different 1 to 9 splitter as suggested by @Christophlette

[Christophlette]

@GemeinerJack : The build that @Lawmower Man showercased might be modifiable to suit your use case.

If you space pipes by one tile and put bridges so pipe 1 gets pipe 2 input at first instead of pipe 1 gets pipe 3 input, you will only need to overfill the start and then the system will run as you expect I think.