Scakes Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Although my computer exceeds the minimum specs and and had no troubles running the Oil upgrade, my experience with the Automation one has quite discouraging. I am curious if other mac users are having similar experiences. Also, is it helpful to Klei to attach multiple logfiles to bug reports that are about unpredictable crashes (i.e. can't put down reliable steps to reproduce)? I'm not a dev but from the way I've read this kind of performance deterioration described on forums, it sounds like maybe a memory leak. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84691-automation-update-sluggish-and-crash-prone-for-mac-version/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 You're gona have to post specs if you want to talk about performance. Regarding the log files, I don't think so if the logs all say the same things, it is more important/useful to have a save file that reproduces it on load. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84691-automation-update-sluggish-and-crash-prone-for-mac-version/#findComment-977910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scakes Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Processor: 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 Memory: 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4000 1536 MB I wouldn't be able to attach a save file that reproduces the crash unfortunately. The crashes are very unpredictable; just really frequent. Sometimes they aren't even preceded by an FPS-dive following a particular action like dragging a dig order or scrolling through in the Research tree. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84691-automation-update-sluggish-and-crash-prone-for-mac-version/#findComment-978037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Well to be fair, your cpu is kinda borderline. So since you're so close to the min spec it would be normal for performance to go up/down every update. It's a good thing to report performance loss after an update tho. BTW I saw your report, and there is no way to force a mac to use the HD 4000 instead of the 650m, what you did was forcing it to use the 650m. Also the 650m is many times more powerful than a HD 4000. And that one log is more than enough to know what the issue is, so just wait for a dev to confirm if it's something they can fix. But from the looks of things, it might be a driver issue so make sure you're installing all osx updates. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84691-automation-update-sluggish-and-crash-prone-for-mac-version/#findComment-978039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadovsf Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 just a note, i play on osx as well and have no issues although i have more powerfull one (GF650, 2.9GHz i7, SSD) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84691-automation-update-sluggish-and-crash-prone-for-mac-version/#findComment-978466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scakes Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 @AlexRou Oh, I had assumed that it was the high-performance graphics card that was the one supported by ONI - shows what I know about graphics cards! So it looks like I'm actually forcing my OS to use the non-supported graphics card right now. I'll try turning off the setting that forces use of the high-performance card, and if that doesn't work, wait and see if the card gets supported. @sadovsf Thanks, I'm guessing that the critical difference is the graphics card between our setups (I am also using SSD). Might be time to get a >2012 MBP at some point >< Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84691-automation-update-sluggish-and-crash-prone-for-mac-version/#findComment-978624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Scakes said: Oh, I had assumed that it was the high-performance graphics card that was the one supported by ONI - shows what I know about graphics cards! So it looks like I'm actually forcing my OS to use the non-supported graphics card right now. I'll try turning off the setting that forces use of the high-performance card, and if that doesn't work, wait and see if the card gets supported. You cannot force it to use the Intel chip, macs are weird that way, either the mac decides whether to use the intel or nvidia one or you force it to use the nvidia one but you cannot force it to use the intel one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84691-automation-update-sluggish-and-crash-prone-for-mac-version/#findComment-978714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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