Lore consistency complaints

[Cassielu]

In the game, the WARBOT/Scion event and Wagstaff's death occurred on the Hermit Island. When Wagstaff was captured by Scion, he was not holding anything in his hands. And all these clearly happened after Moon Strom.

However, in the new puzzle comic, Wagstaff encountered Scion in a Evergreen Forest, holding his sci-fi Bug net in his hand, and the moon was in its Moon Storm form.

 

To be honest, I think where and when an event takes place should be the foundation of the story. The entire storyline is not complicated but still got this consistency issue, which is quite annoying.

Edited June 7 by Cassielu

[Popian]

I think the net is forgivable because in game depictions of events can be simplified.

What hasn't been answered is his gloves. It's obvious they know about it with the number of panels that have you clicking hands.

Another minor thing is that Charlie's rose motif doesn't seem appropriate before she merges with Darkness.

[Ridley]

You can assume game events are always simplified compared to the actual narrative. 

Given that Wagstaff helps you capture the Celestial Revenant, I think it makes narrative sense that he was waiting to re-net the Scion. It is a bit of artistic flourish that I think is appropriate.

[Cassielu]

7 hours ago, Ridley said:

You can assume game events are always simplified compared to the actual narrative. 

Mainly the Hermit Island stuff and Moon stuff. The half of the entire WARBOT quest line ingame was we helping Wagstaff obtain and build this island, Alter's new form after the storm was also deliberately designed. At least this should receive attention, right? Comics are more like simplified version of in-game events on that.

[Dr. Safety]

9 hours ago, Cassielu said:

However, in the new puzzle comic, Wagstaff encountered Scion in a Evergreen Forest, 

Nah, that was Pearl's island. Woodie was just trying to treeguard cheese the boss

[SunlessMoth]

12 hours ago, Cassielu said:

In the game, the WARBOT/Scion event and Wagstaff's death occurred on the Hermit Island. When Wagstaff was captured by Scion, he was not holding anything in his hands. And all these clearly happened after Moon Strom.

However, in the new puzzle comic, Wagstaff encountered Scion in a Evergreen Forest, holding his sci-fi Bug net in his hand, and the moon was in its Moon Storm form.

 

To be honest, I think where and when an event takes place should be the foundation of the story. The entire storyline is not complicated but still got this consistency issue, which is quite annoying.

I think the moonstorm can be explained by the survivors turning them on again. If you rewatch the hostile takeover short you'll see that they have it on and are catching gestalts in there. 

 

My take on the fight not happening on Pearl's island is that the comics are a representation of WX metal and flesh body conection not a 100% accurate telling of the events. Since time works differently on the constant the human body receives memories jumbled and seens to suffer from it. If you pay attention those pannels seen to show the end of the host of horrors trailer aswell. Is not that is inconsistent it's much probably a artistic choice. 

Edited June 7 by SunlessMoth

[Kryz]

My Theory About Wagstaff, the Celestial Scion, and the From Beyond Timeline

This might be a crazy theory, but I think the events shown throughout From Beyond are not presented in chronological order. I also believe that the encounter shown in the Exspectamus comic was the first time Wagstaff and the Celestial Scion met.

1. Don't Starve Together: From Beyond - Scrappy Scavengers [Update Trailer]

Here we see what looks like Wagstaff's first attempt at creating a machine capable of using lunar energy: an early and failed version of W.O.B.O.T.

What stands out to me is the antenna on top of the machine. It seems to react to lunar energy without actually storing it, almost as if it is trying to receive that energy from a distance.

This makes me think that Wagstaff was already experimenting with lunar energy, even if he didn't fully understand how to control it yet.

2. DST: From Beyond - Lunar Machinations [Story Trailer]

At this point, Wagstaff has made significant progress in his research and has begun building a portal.

However, because he still doesn't have a safe way to contain lunar energy, he uses an antenna-like system to receive it indirectly.

These experiments eventually lead to the creation of the "Phasmo-Encapsulator", thanks to the Gestalt that was providing power and life to the machine Wagstaff had created.

This invention allows him to contain and store lunar energy. From this point forward, he no longer relies solely on external receivers. He can now store that energy, use it to power his inventions, and possibly even give them life.

In other words, lunar energy stops being something he merely studies and becomes something he can actively use.

3. Don't Starve Together: From Beyond - Host of Horrors [Update Trailer]

At some point, Wilson and Wagstaff work together on an early version of a portal with an unknown destination. It may have already been designed to use a Gestalt as a power source, which could explain the capsule attached to its side.

Later, Wagstaff discovers that WX is still functioning. I think he immediately recognizes the potential of WX's design and begins to see it as the foundation for a future combat machine.

This seems to match the comic panel where WX appears behind a log in a pose very similar to the one shown in the trailer.

After this, I believe Wagstaff returns to Wilson's house and begins designing the earliest prototypes of what would eventually become W.A.R.B.O.T.

What makes me think this?

In one of his sketches, Wagstaff draws a six-toothed gear. Then, in the Hostile Takeover trailer, W.A.R.B.O.T. is shown with a six-toothed gear mounted on its front. It might be a small detail, but it fits surprisingly well with the theory.

However, I also believe something important happens here that we never actually see.

The Missing Encounter

This is the core of my theory.

I believe the Exspectamus comic shows the first encounter between Wagstaff and the Celestial Scion. Not the encounter we experience in-game, but a completely separate one that happened earlier.

This would explain why the encounter doesn't take place on Hermit Island and could also explain several other details.

For example, I think this event is what led Wagstaff to create the Kinetoclasmic Field Expandinators. He may have built them specifically to prevent another direct attack from the Moon, similar to the one shown in the comic panels.

Another interesting detail is that WX-78 appears to be the only one helping him at this stage. This could mean that WX was the first and only assistant involved in building an early or "beta" version of what would eventually become W.A.R.B.O.T.

During this first encounter, Wagstaff somehow manages to escape. Since he uses radio-based technology and remote transmissions, it is possible that he was able to teleport or transfer himself elsewhere using one of his transmission devices, similar to his Grainy Transmission form.

The Separation of WX-Human and WX-78

I also think this is the period when WX-Human and WX-78 permanently become separate entities.

From that point on, WX-78 develops its own identity and is no longer tied to its human counterpart.

Meanwhile, Wagstaff continues researching, creating more W.A.R.B.O.T. designs, and developing containment measures against both the Celestial Scion and direct lunar attacks.

4. Don't Starve Together: Interference [Wilson Animated Short]

In Interference, Wilson reunites with Wagstaff and discovers that he has built a much more advanced portal.

Unlike the previous versions, this one has two containment capsules attached to its sides. My interpretation is that these capsules are designed to make use of energy provided by Gestalts.

I also think the purpose of the portal may have changed over time.

Maybe its original purpose was to escape the Constant. But after Wagstaff's encounter with the Celestial Scion, he may have started building it as an emergency escape route instead.

If the Moon or the Celestial Scion managed to capture him, this portal could serve as a way to return to a safer location.

Something similar existed in Hamlet and Shipwrecked, where portals could be used to travel between distant locations. If Wagstaff ended up far away, the forests of the Constant could act as a reference point for returning.

There is also the mysterious hand seen at the end of the short.

It does not appear to belong to Wagstaff, since he is busy helping Wilson build the portal at that moment.

My guess is that it could belong to the human version of WX, awakened after the experiment that gave WX-78 its independent consciousness.

5. Don't Starve Together: From Beyond - Hostile Takeover [Update Trailer]

Finally, we arrive at the events of Hostile Takeover.

Here, Wagstaff uses the survivors' efforts and resources to complete a much more advanced version of W.A.R.B.O.T.

WX-78's dialogue during this event has always stood out to me.

When it sees the Undisclosed Construct, it asks:

"WHO ARE YOU?"

This could suggest that WX does not immediately recognize the machine because it has evolved far beyond the original prototype.

Later, when facing W.A.R.B.O.T., WX comments:

"MOST IMPRESSIVE."

To me, this sounds like WX is seeing the final and perfected version of something it first witnessed long ago.

Why I Think the Celestial Scion Already Knew Wagstaff

This is where everything starts coming together.

When we defeat the Celestial Scion, Wagstaff says:

"Very good! The entity is in a weakened state!"

I've always found that reaction strange.

If this were truly his first encounter with the creature, it feels odd that his immediate response is to take advantage of its weakened condition.

The line makes much more sense if he already knows exactly what the entity is.

Under this interpretation, Wagstaff is not improvising. He is trying to finish something he started a long time ago.

He believes he has finally found an opportunity to control or exploit the creature's power.

The Capture

The biggest difference between the comic and the events of Hostile Takeover is the way the celestial entity responds.

In the comic, the Moon attacks Wagstaff directly through lunar energy, but he manages to escape.

In the game, however, the Celestial Scion physically grabs him and takes him away.

What if that wasn't a coincidence?

What if the entity remembered their previous encounter?

If Wagstaff had already escaped once, it would make sense for the Celestial Scion to change its approach and make sure he could not escape again.

I even think there is a possibility that the Scion intentionally appeared weakened in order to lure Wagstaff closer.

The moment Wagstaff believed he had gained the upper hand, the entity seized the opportunity to capture him.

If that's true, then Wagstaff wasn't captured because he got unlucky.

He was simply outplayed by an entity that had already learned from their previous encounter.

Conclusion

My theory is that Wagstaff and the Celestial Scion had a history long before the events we see in-game.

There may have been an earlier encounter that changed everything.

Even though Wagstaff eventually created the Kinetoclasmic Field Expandinators to contain the Celestial Scion and protect himself from another direct lunar attack, he failed to consider one possibility:

The Celestial Scion just capture him directly.

And this time, unlike before, Wagstaff wasn't able to escape.

[Popian]

On 6/7/2026 at 11:59 PM, Kryz said:

I believe the Exspectamus comic shows the first encounter between Wagstaff and the Celestial Scion. Not the encounter we experience in-game, but a completely separate one that happened earlier.

I believe this doesn't work with canon because Scion is made from W.A.R.B.O.T. parts. Wagstaff also mentions "the entity has taken on a fascinating new hybrid form" which suggests it's the first encounter. If you go back more the champion gestalt needed to be captured and amplified with electricity to become unstable?

I think this is going off on a tangent, so I would recommend reviewing the events to discover what's possible.