Jussatoon Posted Wednesday at 05:08 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:08 PM Are you going to at least agree that the drones don't look shadow-aligned enough, or is this debate a complete lost cause and a waste of text? 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted Wednesday at 05:11 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:11 PM 1 minute ago, Ugur01 said: I see where you're coming from. Affinity skills should incorporate the shadow theme without feeling disconnected from the character itself; that sounds logical. While the previous version felt a bit more like something Maxwell would do, the current one doesn't feel 'shadowy' enough to me. Regardless, I’m still bothered by the fact that they nerfed the abilities alongside the design changes, even though it was supposed to be just a visual update. yea, they could just change the shadow whip to be a drone getting out of wx and going in the sky to scan around to be the new vex vfx, and for the hands could be little drones, but the need to craft and overall changes are really not necessary Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted Wednesday at 05:11 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:11 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ugur01 said: I see where you're coming from. Affinity skills should incorporate the shadow theme without feeling disconnected from the character itself; that sounds logical. While the previous version felt a bit more like something Maxwell would do, the current one doesn't feel 'shadowy' enough to me. Regardless, I’m still bothered by the fact that they nerfed the abilities alongside the design changes, even though it was supposed to be just a visual update. I agree on both fronts honestly the current shadowy aura isn't enough design wise and it could stand to be better gameplay wise. 5 minutes ago, Jussatoon said: Are you going to at least agree that the drones don't look shadow-aligned enough, or is this debate a complete lost cause and a waste of text? Honestly I don't get why you are being so hostile about this just because I didn't agree in the way you wanted me to. 10 minutes ago, Dingle said: Wolfgang can cast spells with his perk tree, though. There he is, with a wizard hat and everything. Does this mean Walter is also a wizard since he does have freeze rounds... hmm Wizard scout and Strongman evil beings beware! Edited Wednesday at 05:14 PM by Mysterious box Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted Wednesday at 05:35 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:35 PM 22 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Does this mean Walter is also a wizard since he does have freeze rounds... hmm Wizard scout and Strongman evil beings beware! Walter has an awful lot of weird magic stuff now haha. Have you seen his pure horror rounds and teleporting dog mount? He just needs a wizard hat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussatoon Posted Wednesday at 05:35 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:35 PM 17 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Honestly I don't get why you are being so hostile about this just because I didn't agree in the way you wanted me to. Honestly, I don't know why either; I shouldn't even care this much given that WX isn't my main, even if I enjoy playing them. I guess I'm just upset about a thematic change screwing over a character's feature once again, but unlike Wendy, where the means to activate the feature was nerfed while the feature itself remained the same, the mechanics of this feature changed for the objective worse when we were given the idea that it wasn't going to be changed that way in the first place. The worst part is that it's the shadow affinity that's being gutted, while the lunar affinity is further improved as time goes on. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted Wednesday at 05:36 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:36 PM 3 hours ago, leo920101 said: what? doesn't wobot always do that? no they didnt work off screen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted Wednesday at 06:17 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:17 PM 8 minutes ago, Dingle said: Walter has an awful lot of weird magic stuff now haha. Have you seen his pure horror rounds and teleporting dog mount? He just needs a wizard hat. To be fair it's more so just him shaping them into slingshot ammo and shooting those objects at enemies and that process releasing the energies stored inside whatever he shaped into ammo. 24 minutes ago, Jussatoon said: Honestly, I don't know why either; I shouldn't even care this much given that WX isn't my main, even if I enjoy playing them. I guess I'm just upset about a thematic change screwing over a character's feature once again, but unlike Wendy, where the means to activate the feature was nerfed while the feature itself remained the same, the mechanics of this feature changed for the objective worse when we were given the idea that it wasn't going to be changed that way in the first place. The worst part is that it's the shadow affinity that's being gutted, while the lunar affinity is further improved as time goes on. While I get it I think that energy is better spent trying to get them to improve what's already there as even if it's tiptoeing they seem to be receptive to improving the drones That being said I kinda feel like they planned to nerf it when it went live regardless. While I can't be sure it does seem weird that they'd just randomly decide to nerf the skill purely because people asked for it to be more thematic knowing how negatively it would affect the future feedback when they didn't plan to change the effect. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted Wednesday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:39 PM (edited) 39 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: To be fair it's more so just him shaping them into slingshot ammo and shooting those objects at enemies and that process releasing the energies stored inside whatever he shaped into ammo. While I get it I think that energy is better spent trying to get them to improve what's already there as even if it's tiptoeing they seem to be receptive to improving the drones That being said I kinda feel like they planned to nerf it when it went live regardless. While I can't be sure it does seem weird that they'd just randomly decide to nerf the skill purely because people asked for it to be more thematic knowing how negatively it would affect the future feedback when they didn't plan to change the effect. the biggest problem is that we don't have a light to guide us, we don't have any idea what was the objetive of the skill tree, if the devs said that their goal was to reach A or B, but we receive nothing, the community was in the dark most of the time, the only thing we knew was that something big was coming, at the beginning people are speculating it would be the gammas, we received, in a raw state, but the devs at least said that it's just to see our reaction, then they got more refined but the community noticed that most of them are niche, so the speculation was that the affnities was the reason the devs feared that wx could be a power house, but they are not all that, in resume we still don't now where they want to bring the shadow side, which make it a dificult job to give proper feedback Edited Wednesday at 06:57 PM by doritosdamafia 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted Wednesday at 07:16 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:16 PM 1 hour ago, mima_ said: no they didnt work off screen. The world's Wobot has worked off screen since it was introduced in its beta. It even has code to determine the distance of objects to mimic the time it takes if it was loaded onscreen (alongside usual durability loss). Winona's Winbot has been the only case where it doesn't work off screen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussatoon Posted Wednesday at 07:27 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:27 PM It might be getting to the point where I forget about the drones, and instead hope that they expand on the Shadow Battery mechanic more. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted yesterday at 06:34 AM Share Posted yesterday at 06:34 AM 11 hours ago, Maxil20 said: The world's Wobot has worked off screen since it was introduced in its beta this wx beta or what ? i dont play in beta and for so long i work with both wobots and winbots they seems to stop when i were off screen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul7k Posted yesterday at 07:01 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:01 AM (edited) 13 hours ago, doritosdamafia said: yea, they could just change the shadow whip to be a drone getting out of wx and going in the sky to scan around to be the new vex vfx, and for the hands could be little drones, but the need to craft and overall changes are really not necessary I am kinda with you on this.. could have been a red tinted bio scanalizer vfx. that being said, despite the screen clutter, 4 auto grabbers turns WX into a looting power house. exploiterator could probably be more consistent if they tagged things for a few seconds which would probably help in multiple mob situations as well as general buff uptime. autograbbers on the other hand could try to loot things you already have in your inventory? (i could see people arguing for and against this). it would be nice to have a combined upgrade for horror and atrium just to have the old compounded choice. Also on that note does the pure horror have a counterpart to the trees and mimics that atrium has? I didn't notice anything when I was fiddling with it. Spoiler and I will say it again. backup chassis should be made portable for the owners and not hammerable Edited yesterday at 07:08 AM by Soul7k Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondr_ Posted yesterday at 02:31 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:31 PM add way to carry around chassis (as heavy objects for example) and let us use Circuit Extractor on both animated and turned off chassis and we are good with lunar. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinoel Posted yesterday at 03:10 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:10 PM Proposed WX-78 Rework Adjustments & QoL Improvements I believe these changes would greatly improve WX-78’s gameplay flow, especially regarding utility and visual clarity. Circuit & Module Tweaks Transport I: Increase storage capacity to 6 slots. This makes it a more viable alternative to high-tier backpacks. Transport II: Add the ability to dock and carry heavy chassis (heavy lifting). This would be a massive QoL improvement for the Lunar Grotto and transporting heavy statues/pieces. Warm Standby: This should be a baseline passive for WX-78. Removing the circuit requirement frees up space for more interesting builds without sacrificing thermal management. Field Survey II: Bring back the auto-exploration feature. Allowing the drone to reveal the map independently would streamline the early-to-mid game scouting. Shadow Affinity: Change the drone's model from a flying unit to a ground-based unit. This reduces "visual clutter" and prevents the drone from obscuring the player's view or interfering with clicking on world objects. Improved Gathering Logic Global Gathering: Instead of a limited radius, the drone should function based on inventory filtering. If you place a specific item in one of its slots, the drone will seek out that item until its capacity is full, then automatically deposit it into the player's inventory. This allows players to "set" what they want to farm (e.g., twigs or grass) without constant micromanagement. Combat & Synergy Battle Drone Redesign: Replace the current attack drone with an Area Scanner. This scanner would create a field that synergizes with the Spin-Cycle Circuit, perhaps debuffing enemies or boosting WX-78’s stats within the zone. Alternatively, move away from drones entirely for combat to keep the focus on WX-78's own power. I'm Brazilian and I don't speak English, so please excuse any translation mistakes. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deurus Posted yesterday at 06:37 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:37 PM 3 hours ago, Dinoel said: Proposed WX-78 Rework Adjustments & QoL Improvements I believe these changes would greatly improve WX-78’s gameplay flow, especially regarding utility and visual clarity. Circuit & Module Tweaks Transport I: Increase storage capacity to 6 slots. This makes it a more viable alternative to high-tier backpacks. Transport II: Add the ability to dock and carry heavy chassis (heavy lifting). This would be a massive QoL improvement for the Lunar Grotto and transporting heavy statues/pieces. Warm Standby: This should be a baseline passive for WX-78. Removing the circuit requirement frees up space for more interesting builds without sacrificing thermal management. Field Survey II: Bring back the auto-exploration feature. Allowing the drone to reveal the map independently would streamline the early-to-mid game scouting. Shadow Affinity: Change the drone's model from a flying unit to a ground-based unit. This reduces "visual clutter" and prevents the drone from obscuring the player's view or interfering with clicking on world objects. Improved Gathering Logic Global Gathering: Instead of a limited radius, the drone should function based on inventory filtering. If you place a specific item in one of its slots, the drone will seek out that item until its capacity is full, then automatically deposit it into the player's inventory. This allows players to "set" what they want to farm (e.g., twigs or grass) without constant micromanagement. Combat & Synergy Battle Drone Redesign: Replace the current attack drone with an Area Scanner. This scanner would create a field that synergizes with the Spin-Cycle Circuit, perhaps debuffing enemies or boosting WX-78’s stats within the zone. Alternatively, move away from drones entirely for combat to keep the focus on WX-78's own power. I'm Brazilian and I don't speak English, so please excuse any translation mistakes. Please make a post in the forum, I like your suggestion. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinoel Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Deurus said: Please make a post in the forum, I like your suggestion. Postei no fórum, pelo menos acho que postei kkk Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171270-game-update-725481/page/3/#findComment-1865466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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