PLEASE undo the worst of the Alpha and Beta nerfs. I’m begging you.

[beyond human]

20 hours ago, Koomin said:

Everybody has different playstyles - if you think the circuits are too weak, just use another one.

I think they do something good and like them as is.

Players who think hardy circuit with maximum 32.5% damage reduction is too strong, just don't abuse it.
They can easily adjust wx's strength by using other circuits to instead hardy circuit. They always have the choice even if hardy circuit become too strong.
But players who think hardy circuit with maximum 17.5% damage reduction is too weak, they have no choice.
That's why I think hardy circuit should get buff.

[Koomin]

3 minutes ago, beyond human said:

Players who think hardy circuit with maximum 32.5% damage reduction is too strong, just don't abuse it.
They can easily adjust wx's strength by using other circuits to instead hardy circuit. They always have the choice even if hardy circuit become too strong.
But players who think hardy circuit with maximum 17.5% damage reduction is too weak, they have no choice.
That's why I think hardy circuit should get buff.

What?

I think that 32.5% is too strong and makes the game unfun for me: You say I should just not use it

You think that 17.5% is too weak and not fun for you: You say that you have no choice and they need to buff it for your preferences.  Why not just not use it like you are advising me to??  

Legitimately if you think that it is too weak now and unfun for you, just take your exact own advice and choose a different skill since you seem to think that is fair.  A lot of people like this skill as-is, and would appreciate it not being made unfun.  

[Fishgirl]

9 hours ago, Koomin said:

What?

I think that 32.5% is too strong and makes the game unfun for me: You say I should just not use it

You think that 17.5% is too weak and not fun for you: You say that you have no choice and they need to buff it for your preferences.  Why not just not use it like you are advising me to??  

Legitimately if you think that it is too weak now and unfun for you, just take your exact own advice and choose a different skill since you seem to think that is fair.  A lot of people like this skill as-is, and would appreciate it not being made unfun.  

"i think the customizable character should be less customizable because i dont wanna build them in a certain way". i got the skill for damage reduction, why cant it be good? this logic is genuinely baffling, and sorta self centered. you said yourself that you're not forced to go all in on health to be a tank, so why do you care?

 

btw warly has more damage reduction than that. 

[RayanLopes]

9 hours ago, beyond human said:

Players who think hardy circuit with maximum 32.5% damage reduction is too strong, just don't abuse it.

it's a line of thought that sounds kind of silly

35 minutes ago, Fishgirl said:

btw warly has more damage reduction than that. 

Warly? ah yes that character who, even having 33% damage reduction for 4 minutes, almost no one cares to play with him, and when they do play with him, it's to swap characters right afterwards 😞

[Dingle]

On 4/16/2026 at 3:43 AM, Fishgirl said:

can we stop this "broken op" sorta talk and how dst is uncompromising or whatever. if i dedicate 5 slots to get similar damage reduction to a character who gets it innately, i dont think it's overpowered at all. 

You do know you get up to 21 slots now, right?

I love this premise where you're pretending that Wx still only has 6 slots.

[Fishgirl]

19 minutes ago, Dingle said:

You do know you get up to 21 slots now, right?

I love this premise where you're pretending that Wx still only has 6 slots.

yeah??? and only 6-7 for alphas??? wtf is your point?

[Cheggf]

Just mod the game if you want to run around in godmode or whatever

[doritosdamafia]

10 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

Just mod the game if you want to run around in godmode or whatever

if you don't want to debate, don't enter the circle, having 35% dr by sacrificing having more than 100 hunger and sanity is not that strong

[Cheggf]

11 minutes ago, doritosdamafia said:

if you don't want to debate, don't enter the circle, having 35% dr by sacrificing having more than 100 hunger and sanity is not that strong

You literally did not even need to heal. You often didn't even need armor. 

[doritosdamafia]

3 hours ago, Cheggf said:

You literally did not even need to heal. You often didn't even need armor. 

if 35% dr is so strong, wolfgangs would use grass armor instead, if it was the original 65% i would agree, because 65% is stupid, but 35%? theres two characters in the game that can reach that amount and one of them can even give it to others, if the max damage reduction was decrease to 25 or 30 i would not care, but merely 17,5%, if klei changed the effect of thinkering 2 for the hard circuit stead of letting this excuse of defense i would find more appropriate, i not sking for just revert the nerf, i also sking to make the circuit  more difficult do get, so at least we have a justification to it be so "strong"

Edited April 17 by doritosdamafia

[Fishgirl]

1 hour ago, Cheggf said:

You literally did not even need to heal. You often didn't even need armor. 

that was when it was 65%. 35% is equivalent to warly. nobody is crying about him

[Cheggf]

49 minutes ago, doritosdamafia said:

if 35% dr is so strong, wolfgangs would use grass armor instead

And you wonder why people aren't taking you seriously.

[Fishgirl]

1 hour ago, doritosdamafia said:

if 35% dr is so strong, wolfgangs would use grass armor instead, if it was the original 65% i would agree, because 65% is stupid, but 35%? theres two characters in the game that can reach that amount and one of them can even give it to others, if the max damage reduction was decrease to 25 or 30 i would not care, but merely 17,5%, if klei changed the effect of thinkering 2 for the hard circuit stead of letting this excuse of defense eu would find more appropriate, i not sking for just revert the nerf, i also sking to make the circuit  more difficult do get, so at least we have a justification to it be so "strong"

your mind is in the right place but the grass armor comparison doesn't work 😭 since it doesnt stack with anything else. absolute truth nuke with the rest though

[doritosdamafia]

10 minutes ago, Fishgirl said:

your mind is in the right place but the grass armor comparison doesn't work 😭 since it doesnt stack with anything else. absolute truth nuke with the rest though

i used the grass armor as a absurd thing, because the same way he said that with 35% dr you don't need armor or healing is absurd, sadly bringing arguments or reason for his thoughts is not on the table

Edited April 17 by doritosdamafia

[YouKnowWho142]

I mean, if the old value of 550 is considered, with a 32.5% damage reduction that’s an effective hp of I think somewhere around 814. Because of how armor hp works, that would be the equivalent of Wilson with at least 2 football helmets, and that’s WX without any armor of their own.

So yes, I do think the old alpha circuits were too strong, especially considering with the circuit swap buffs and chassis they only ever needed to keep the hearty circuits in long enough for a boss and then immediately switch back to a comfort body. It never should’ve added damage resistance.

Edited April 18 by YouKnowWho142

[doritosdamafia]

klei should have changed damage reduction to healing increase after the second nerf, would be a good way to increase the effective health