The_UrbanGoose8 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 This Update in my opinion misses the mark entirely, theres 4 new circuits, and while unique. they serve purposes that dont exist. The Block circuit is the best one here, and yet it has a 2 minute cooldown, and its a FOUR SLOT. the reingestion circuit was always going to be bad . we knew this before it dropped. its very niche and doesnt serve a purpose to exist.. the sonic wave circuit(?) has NO use case, the fear abilities on every character before this were never used, so why now? and the spin cycle is the coolest one, but it has no combat case, and its only use outside of slightly faster chopping is if your one of the very few people who use the maul. as nobody is using the default axe in real combat. ALSO no aoe, despite being a spinning attack..? Now for the NERFS. this update nerfed everything players used, and while some stuff was originally too strong, this has just killed any fun you get while choosing as wx78. The Hardy circuits are undertuned now. the first initial 2 nerfs were good enough NOBODY was complaining about hunger, sanity, light OR beanbooster. these are harmless and are only nerfed to compensate for having 6 more circuit slots, which as previously shown, arent even good enough to warrant the nerfs, this update feels like its making wx drive back into the one trick pony nature style, where everything else is so weak that JUST like pre skilltree. players will run the game thing every time.. 8 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170423-the-wx-gamma-update-so-little-given-while-so-much-is-taken-away/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 42 minutes ago, The_UrbanGoose8 said: This Update in my opinion misses the mark entirely, theres 4 new circuits, and while unique. they serve purposes that dont exist. The Block circuit is the best one here, and yet it has a 2 minute cooldown, and its a FOUR SLOT. the reingestion circuit was always going to be bad . we knew this before it dropped. its very niche and doesnt serve a purpose to exist.. the sonic wave circuit(?) has NO use case, the fear abilities on every character before this were never used, so why now? and the spin cycle is the coolest one, but it has no combat case, and its only use outside of slightly faster chopping is if your one of the very few people who use the maul. as nobody is using the default axe in real combat. ALSO no aoe, despite being a spinning attack..? Now for the NERFS. this update nerfed everything players used, and while some stuff was originally too strong, this has just killed any fun you get while choosing as wx78. The Hardy circuits are undertuned now. the first initial 2 nerfs were good enough NOBODY was complaining about hunger, sanity, light OR beanbooster. these are harmless and are only nerfed to compensate for having 6 more circuit slots, which as previously shown, arent even good enough to warrant the nerfs, this update feels like its making wx drive back into the one trick pony nature style, where everything else is so weak that JUST like pre skilltree. players will run the game thing every time.. i understand your thinking, but in reality pepople were talking about hunger circit, yeah it was too strong ( for a solo circuit) but sanity ligth and beam booster, eletric? yeah noboty expected those, and the gama circuits are all mid to bad ones sadly just good to get more data but the circuits itself? bad Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170423-the-wx-gamma-update-so-little-given-while-so-much-is-taken-away/#findComment-1857491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_UrbanGoose8 Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, edulopes said: i understand your thinking, but in reality pepople were talking about hunger circit, yeah it was too strong ( for a solo circuit) but sanity ligth and beam booster, eletric? yeah noboty expected those, and the gama circuits are all mid to bad ones sadly just good to get more data but the circuits itself? bad were..people talking about the hunger circuit? i dont see not eating as being the strongest part of wx at all. although nice. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170423-the-wx-gamma-update-so-little-given-while-so-much-is-taken-away/#findComment-1857496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacio15 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I was already fed up with the nerfs, honestly I already thought the skill tree was pretty pointless, just more of the same, no fun at all, but these new chips are awful, they're the worst chips ever made, they waste material making them, at best they have decent animations. 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170423-the-wx-gamma-update-so-little-given-while-so-much-is-taken-away/#findComment-1857498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, The_UrbanGoose8 said: were..people talking about the hunger circuit? i dont see not eating as being the strongest part of wx at all. although nice. on posts, on the update post, it was an somewat popular opnion, ( even when wortox exists BUT OH WELL) But for my vision i think it was in a strange place between too strong and neat, but half was too much, 35% should be an sweet spot now is with BUFF 25% (original values with is sad very sad) well i was about to start playing wx but now, i will wait till some wx changes, and if they arent more decent better play my maxwell, and hope his skill tree is worth it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170423-the-wx-gamma-update-so-little-given-while-so-much-is-taken-away/#findComment-1857499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 58 minutes ago, The_UrbanGoose8 said: NOBODY was complaining about hunger, sanity, light OR beanbooster. these are harmless and are only nerfed to compensate for having 6 more circuit slots, which as previously shown, arent even good enough to warrant the nerfs, That's not true though. Though I can see where it is possible to get upset by this. Think of the skills as choices (though they ought to be clearer somehow in their effects) where if you want the health regen from the beanbooser, don't take the skill. If you prefer the overheal shield, take that instead. The sanity one was certaintly over turned, Hunger when stacked was insanely powerful so kind of warranted the nerf when combined with the ability to swap out chassis: Going into combat? Swap to the Chassis for Combat! Doing stuff around the world? Swap to the Hunger one so you dont' have to eat. The health one I think is just to make WX a little less tanky with all the options they have now and I think is the best contender for a nerf revert. As for the Light and Electrification, idk those didn't seem nessecary to me. The light was cute, and the electrification was fine because of how many hits it required to proc. Maybe with the block it would have been too strong, so it might have been a preemptive move. But I think nerfs are good for a game when warranted, and I think they were warranted here in some capacity. Edited April 3 by Evelo 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170423-the-wx-gamma-update-so-little-given-while-so-much-is-taken-away/#findComment-1857508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LavenderLillie Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 58 minutes ago, edulopes said: now is with BUFF 25% (original values with is sad very sad) With buff 20%, actually. It's even worse than you think somehow. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170423-the-wx-gamma-update-so-little-given-while-so-much-is-taken-away/#findComment-1857553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I like the dude with 5 posts trying to talk for the community and saying that nobody was doing the thing that everyone was doing. Threads saying those things were overpowered were being basically spammed, there were so many complaints. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170423-the-wx-gamma-update-so-little-given-while-so-much-is-taken-away/#findComment-1857562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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