What are your thoughts on what a spider type produced by Webber as if he was a spider queen would look like

[Dr.Webber]

i’ve been trying to design a spider type produced by Webber as if he was a spider queen and this is what I got so far I’m planning to add little feet on their bottom sides, but I’ve been thinking a few things one should I instead of designing spiders as if he already as a spider queen or should I design spiders as they look if he became a queen, which I’d imagine would either look like his base skin or like the following images except with little legs on the bottom sides, possibly with a around her head or should I do what I’ve already been doing and trying to come up with what a spider produced by him in his current form would look like the first two images showing what the triumphant and Moonbound versions would look like although not as easy as the becoming of a spider queen version or fairly easy since those skins share more features of a spider queen than the base skin you know spikes at the end of the legs hair being more pointed up at the top of the head and for the triumphant skin the main two eyes are shaped similarly to a spider queen‘s eyes but alongside adding the aforementioned tiny little legs to this design since spider queen only has six eyes that are not shaped like most of the eyes on the skins, and oh different shaped mouth and number of teeth I’d imagine the base spider equivalent of these skins if we consider these skins if we consider them to be types of spider queens would include an increased amount of eyes with a different shape and a different shaped mouth and teeth number and shape and possibly a black widow, simple and crescent moon on picking up from their bottom the really tricky one has the base skin version considering that spider queen has spikes and Webber doesn’t would his spawn have spikes Would there hair be pointed up would they have different shape and number of ours as well as teeth and mouth shape and what would this look like I leave it to you, dear reader what do you think on all of this?

Also, in case anyone wondering the way that Webber and his current form would get this new type of spider would be to mutate the baby spiders from the spider eggs he spawns in with either through giving some of his life forced like you do with the meat effigy or giving them his hair, meat, or blood charged with unnatural energy from the boy and the spiders original fusion

Edited February 28 by Dr.Webber

[Mike23Ua]

One of the things Webber should have in his skill tree, that no other character should be able to ever be able to do.. is the ability to “soothe” a Spider Queen.

Soothe meaning make her revert back into the ground again as a tier 1 spider den. Why would a Webber player want this you ask? To prevent Non-Webbers from dying to them.

I imagine it would work about like soothing angry tree guardians, simply plant cones near them and they’ll go back to sleep. 

[Dr.Webber]

3 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

One of the things Webber should have in his skill tree, that no other character should be able to ever be able to do.. is the ability to “soothe” a Spider Queen.

Soothe meaning make her revert back into the ground again as a tier 1 spider den. Why would a Webber player want this you ask? To prevent Non-Webbers from dying to them.

I imagine it would work about like soothing angry tree guardians, simply plant cones near them and they’ll go back to sleep. 

I actually had that idea before but I feel like it’s missing something. Any ideas how to spice it up, speaking of spider queen someone else suggested giving spider hats a use through making it an ingredient in a type of armor of some kind kinda like the bramble husk being an ingredient in bramble shade armor sense with the existence of Webber. They’re basically useless but since it seems out of character for Webber to kill a spider queen I was thinking of having it acquired in a different way through them, shedding it well turning into a tier one den in the presence of a Webber like our real life spiders shed their exoskeletons or having it be craftable through merging it with a skill that has him dropped to spider glands upon death using the materials you get when you deconstruct a spider hat, or if we don’t hurt anymore ways of getting it another way, it could be used would be allowing him to bury it like other players buried his  skull in reign of Giants for some reward like maybe getting 10 friendly spider spawning from it but then again having a mechanic like this would probably encourage people to kill a spider queen anyway, what do you think Webber’s unique brood would look like?

[Mike23Ua]

Actually, yeah I got a suggestion on how to “soothe” spider queens too but it is inspired by Wickerbottoms spell book that allows her to create spiderwebs.

What if we could place “web” on the ground like a turf? This web when placed around a spider Queen will act similar to placing pinecones around tree guardians to make them settle down.

Additionally: being able to place “web” turf would slow down non-spider mobs that step onto it (but not by much)

[Dr.Webber]

2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Actually, yeah I got a suggestion on how to “soothe” spider queens too but it is inspired by Wickerbottoms spell book that allows her to create spiderwebs.

What if we could place “web” on the ground like a turf? This web when placed around a spider Queen will act similar to placing pinecones around tree guardians to make them settle down.

Additionally: being able to place “web” turf would slow down non-spider mobs that step onto it (but not by much)

I was actually thinking planting spider eggs around them but I do plan to add the ability to place down and remove sticky webbing here’s what I got so far ( I’m planning to change the alinements, queen decorator, and rapid growth)

skill tree:

 

 

(befriended nurse spider to unlock)

• Unbreakable friendship: Make decorated dens  not break when attacked and spiders in the  Bedazzled range only attack attackers and nurses spawn from tier 3+ decorating the den will no longer retract the ground webbing, when not befriended bedazzled spiders will stay within the range of the decorated den, decorated dens can defend themselves by stunning whoever is attacking them(I work similar to brightshade and we will play a larger version of the web animation that plays one a spider eat a switcherdoodle) while it regens hp too

 

 

• Oral obliging : cause spiders to “hammer” by hitting the structure you want to be hammered once in case of a miss click use webby whistle to cancel demolition, they eat yucuse snot now when you’re stuck, can rummage through hound mounds(blue and red gems)/burrows (stolen items as well as rock, Flint, nighter, and gold)/hollow stump (stolen items)/splumonkey pod (stolen items)/marotter den(stolen items)/tidy hidy holes(for collected dust) items gained by rummaging will temporarily be wet due to saliva you can trigger the spiders too start rummaging by blowing the whistle near the thing you want them to rummage through rummaging will be a timed interaction similar to picking a berry bush or going through a scrap pile 
     

 

• Silk fashioner: razors can be used to mark sticky webbing for retraction,if you  place sticky webbing connected to the den and the den still has sticky webbing to use the den will “place” that instead of using your own sticky webbing, you can craft sticky webbing with 2 silk(sticky webbing outside of that I “placed” by the den would trigger spiders to come out)(only crafted sticky webbing drops when using the razor)

• Rapid Growth: Webber can upgrade dens with 4 silk instead of 5 silk

 

 

 

• Regeneration sensitization:increase stats from nurse spiders for Webber(15 hp)

• Nocturnally adept: partial night vision  (sense spiders walk around at night) only silhouettes  not enough to not be attacked by Charlie but enough to  see where your going, reduced sanity lose from dusk or night 60-80% during dawn and 40-60% during night.

 

 

• Deeper den sleeper:Stats for sleeping in dens to 2 sanity and 3 health for 1.5 hunger.

• No picky eater: Webber has the ability to eat horrible meats that pigs and spiders eat as well as unique stats for monster the various forms of monster meat

 

Bunny puff and slurper pelt: hunger:12.5

 

Pig skin: hunger: 62.5

 

Cooked monster meat: hunger: 25 health:3

 

monster lasagna: hunger: 37.5 health: 10 sanity:10(this also extends to monster tartare hunger: 62.5 health: 10 sanity:10)

 

 monster jerky: hunger: 37.5 health: 15 sanity:20

 

• Den Relocation: Tier 1 dens can be picked up by Webber and relocated (affects Decorated Dens + can remove and relocate the stickers)(pulled from @JJ0264)

 

• Unnatural brood: You are now able to craft the Travel den it’s a large backpack like item with 4 or 6 general slots, and a hidden 20 slot storage for spiders that can be opened like a polar bin. It also has the down side of slowing you down 10% Along side the general backpack slots there are 8 specialized slots with one containing healing glop for incredibly faster healing regeneration , one for storing spider food so they Don’t Starve, and 6 slots for reusing the baby spiders from the forge and they would act as distractions somewhat like the parasitic shading  but the victim wouldn’t be immune to damage you decide if,when,and how many you takeout at a time also depending on what beard skin you have on will determine what they look like  they would look like tiny versions of what spiders from a den that has a queen that looks like that beards respective Webber skin as well as the egg sack having the same color,you get a 12-20 second cool down until you can spawn the next one and they would do 9 damage(18 if you feed them electric milk),have 7 hp, upon death one will respawn every 90 seconds . You can also use your webby whistle to call them out for battle or to call them back in in emergencies or to quickly heal or to just travel with them. you can hide in it like a snurtle  shell and spawn web from overcoming arachnophobia allowing you to region like you do and a normal tier 3 den and when a mob walks on the web spiders come out and kill it and bring the meat back

(You need this to craft the 3 care crafts and after the first 4 uses you need to replace the den decorating set for five more uses each time you run out)

1 spider egg, 1 den decorating set,24 health

 

Concept examples:

 

 

 

 

 

(the spiders go down to the size of a baby spider and his smiling like a befriended one)

 

 

(like this except they smile like befriended spiders)

 

(Original idea and Art by @blacknight7890, I edited in the flag and some details to the idea )(the spider legs in the concept art now only apply when he’s in it)

 

 

 

• Carecrafts :  (unnatural brood required, use the itsy-bitsy den as a portable crafting station)

 

Friendship bracelets: 2 bone shard, six beard hair, and one butterfly used in conjunction with the homemade to revive spiders you bind a spider to a friendship bracelet similar to a beefalo to a Beefalo Bell except you don’t give it a name the next time it dies it drops the friendship bracelet pain on how you wanna go with us at a lower durability, maybe have to be repairable with bone  and if you wanna automate a bit what if it works like  cursed trinkets except instead of being drawn to players it’s drawn to the nearest homemade den and if there’s an open slot, it takes it it can also be used by non-Webber players to make spiders neutral to them by keeping it in one of their inventory slots

 

(yellow highlighting isn’t part of the actual concept. It’s just meant to emphasize each leg sense it kind of felt like they blended in.)

 

Totem of friendship: (@Creatingabe1125’s idea) It would work if you have 2 or more spider, and what it would do is reduce damage against a hit based on how many spiders were hit and how many spiders there are. With more spiders meaning more pontential damage reduction against a hit and the more spiders hit the more that damage reduction is granted. However it only works when 2 or more spiders are hit 5-65% damage reduction, there would also be a damage buff The dmg buff would be simple with 0.5 extra dmg per spider upto a maximum of 10 extra dmg. The friendship totem would cost 1 living log, 8 silk, and 1 red gem, and would lose 2% durability per dead spider

 

homemade den: every time the den has a spider added it lose 1% durability, you can find out how much durability there is by inspecting, and you can repair it using silk but maybe by 2-5%. it has 12 spiders with the inventory of a scaled chest but for spiders only, it’ll take 90 seconds for each spider to respawn it (and how it will respawn a spider after the 90 seconds is the lightning conductor purple gem combination will cause lightning to strike around it the respawned to spider crawl out of the ground like rabbit king as a reference to how you unlock Webber in solo Don’t Starve)

You can only place it on sticky webbing, you could also call the spiders out of the den by interacting with it

And it can be broken using a hammer

(craft the homemade den with a purple gem, a lightning conductor, and 2 sticks )

 

 

 

 

• Silkcrafts:

Web net: eight silk, a certain number of scrap ,and one electric milk it’s like a less powerful shadow prison that does damage over the time depending on how big the creature is caught in it they will stay trapped for 5 to 10 minutes with a 30 second cooldown electric unnatural energy damages them overtime

 

Silk spindle:@blacknight7890 came up with an idea I re named it and changed its look but other then that it’s all there’s Learn to craft a 'Silk spindle', [like a giant spindle with spider hair and  a finial on it (with white string when silk is on it)] a structure that can be placed near decorated spider dens. Spiders will spin webs onto it over time, can be harvested for silk." [passive silk farming]

 

finial looks like this:

 

 

 

 

• Garden spider :farm like Webber does in the gorge and learn more from the gardeneer hat(same as Premier Gardeneer Hat)

 

(Icon borrowed from @BiddoBams’ Warly skill tree)

• Spider Goatherder: learn to milk volt goats with empty bottles, volt goats won’t be disturbed by Webber anymore and calm charged volt goats by feeding them any number of Wobsters, bananas,meat,Burch nuts, pomegranates,eggs, Asparagus, pumpkin seeds (doing this while not charged will make them follow you for a short period time to allow for easier relocation)

 

 

 

 

• Silk stitch: You can now repair things with silk like Winona’s trusty tape

 

• acidophilic arachnid: when in acid rain Webber gets: 

 

Attack Damage	Physical DamageTaken	Move Speed
+5%	-2.5%	+1.5%

 

• Queen decorator: you can now decorate spider queen that will give her all the same effects of a decorated den(if you have unbreakable friendship, decorations won’t fall off when hit and will only attack attackers), when fighting nearby, spider queen will send over befriended nurse spiders to your aid

 

• Animalistic arachnid: Webber has the same all fours running ability as Wilbur and wonkey, when you fight bare handed you use your claws doing double the normal amount of damage

 

• In the spirit of friendship: When dying with Webber will drop 2 spider glands, Webber can now decorate seven dens with a den decorating set rather than five

 

• Garden spiders:

(create three new types of switcherdoodles with corresponding new spiders)(you need to successfully harvest and collect two of the corresponding crops to unlock each recipe)(when paired with silk fashioner, you can make farm plots permanently, wet by putting sticky webbing over farm plots if you use a water can on the plot either before or after placing the sticky webbing)

Squirter:  Green Huntsman Spiders have a green grassy pattern almost akin to a watermelon, and use this as camouflage to hide in the foliage and ambush prey that wanders by. In DST, maybe they could be commanded to stay in one spot with lots of plants. When you check in on them later, they may give you some morsels or meat, letting you have a share of whatever animals they were catching offscreen. Their switcherdoodle could be made from watermelons, like the pattern on their abdomen. Attacks by shooting water out its mouth that can also water crops

Switcherdoodle: 3 monster meat, 2 silk, 2 watermelon (20dmg, 200hp)

 

Hydrolysis spider: Black Widows are an infamously venomous spider, able to paralyze and even LIQUEFY their prey, which ranges from small insects all the way to larger animals like lizards and snakes. Coincidentally, the appearance of their eggs is often compared to garlic cloves! In DST, this paralyzation could be implemented in many ways, the easiest being putting mobs to sleep for a few seconds, allowing the other spiders a chance to heal and get in a bunch of damage before they wake back up, with a heavy cooldown following that so they can't just put a mob to sleep over and over. Their switcherdoodle could be made from garlic, like how their eggs look. It can fertilize crops with the liquid remains

Switcherdoodle: 2 monster meat, 3 silk, 2 garlic (20dmg, 400hp)

 

: Orb Weavers are commonly found on garden plants, and build large circular webs to catch pests. In DST, maybe they could make webs in your gardens to trap the Lord of the Fruit Flies, or even Brightshades? Their switcherdoodle could be made from basically any farm plant, but I'd go with tomatoes to give those a good use as Webber, since they can't be eaten by spiders for healing like veggie-eating followers do. catch all types of bugs in orbs of web and can till (like merms can with a shoddy tool)

Switcherdoodle: 2 monster meat, 3 silk, 2 tomatoes(20dmg, 200hp)

 

 

• social hunting:  befriended/bedazzled spiders will no longer check items to see if they can eat them so now they won’t eat anything unless you feed them

 

•   Glop mastery: healing glop animation takes half as long as well as healing over time for twice the healing in total for both Webber and spiders (Webber:8hp+1hp per sec for 8 sec=16hp in total spiders: 80hp+10hp per sec for 8 sec= 160hp in total) 

 

•   Switcherdoodle stretching: efficiently use ingredients to make 3 times that amount of switcherdoodles when crafted (@Creatingabe1125’s idea)

 

• Good reputation: when befriending spiders in groups amount of spiders befriended in one feeding increases to 4-6

 

 

   

          

 Alignments:

 

Lunar spider care I: 

The cryptic founder has rewarded your curiosity by giving you the power to reveal a shattered spider’s greater potential. You can also gift your friends some temporary lunar power.

You can now give a shattered spider 2 moon glass to change them into the enlightened spider. They can bite for 20 dmg but can do a psychic attack for 30 dmg if undisturbed for 3 seconds once started and takes another 4 seconds to begin attacking again. Other enlightened spiders can join this attack to deal a stronger hit. When in a group attack, the spiders stay in the psychic state and physically attack every 3 seconds. And if 3 or more spiders join the attack, it will be an aoe attack, with more enlightened spiders increasing the range and damage of it.

You can also craft shattered web-balls with 4 moon glass and 4 silk, which will provide a 10% defense against lunary foes and 5% dmg against shadowy foes to all befriended spiders. The effect lasts for 2 minutes and has a cooldown of 4, but they’re stackable and are 1 use.

You can infuse pure brilliance into the web ball, replacing 5 dmg with 5 planar dmg for all befriended enlightened spiders.

Some other ideas are that you can craft the shattered switcherdoodle with 2 moonrock like how you can use “pig skin?” from hamlet in pig skin recipes and you’d have the recipe unlocked from the start. And befriending an enlightened spider will unlock an enlightened switcher doodle for 1 monster meat, 3 silk, and 3 moon glass.

 

Lunar spider care II: 

 

With a better feel of the moon’s power, wielding any lunar equipment will provide some sense of comfort by reducing the insanity of the world. The cryptic founder has also brightened your creative spirit and you now have the idea for a great battle caller.

When wielding 1 lunar equipment, all negative sanity auras around you and the night are reduced by 10%, 2 lunar equipment makes that 22.5%, and 3 lunar equipment makes that 33%.

You can now craft a new item at the brightsmithy called Webber’s brightle caller for 6 brightshade husks, 4 pure brilliance, 8 silk, and maybe or maybe not a beefalo horn.

The following effects last 1 minute: All spiders, including Webber and spider queens, move 20% faster, while all foes are slowed down by 33%. All non befriended nearby spider and spider queens will target what you target.

It has no durability with a 1 day cooldown, similar to the mudslingers. When used, Webber will play an animation with it, along with 3 quotes/lines that make up a compelling speech, but it sounds more soothing to non spiders, similar to a pan flute.

He can also recruit up to 2 spider queens with the spider queen instantly turning into a nest upon recruitment.

The following effects last 2 minutes: If you’ve recruited spider queens before use, 1 or 2 spider queens depending on how many you recruited, will rise from the ground as shattered queens, and has the same stats as normal spider queens, except they obey your most recent command, can summon shattered spiders, and deals 40 dmg along with 20 planar dmg. Enlightened spiders will gain 5 additional planar dmg.

 

 

shadow spider care I:

 

The shadow queen has rewarded your loyalty by granting you the darkest and most cunning of spiders. You can also gift your friends some temporary power of the shadows.

Learn to craft the shadow switcherdoodle which costs 2 monster meat, 3 silk, & 2 nightmare fuel. The shadow spider can double leap or leap mid air after leaping if the target moves. It can also teleport like normal shadows or a 20% chance after landing a hit with a leap. It’s bite is 20 but it’s damage increases by 5 per leap in a leap attack.

You can also craft shadow web-balls that cost 4 nightmare fuel and 4 silk. They provide 10% defense against shadowy foes and 5% dmg against lunary foes to all befriended spiders. The effect lasts for 2 minutes and has a cooldown of 4, but they are stackable and are 1 use.

you can infuse it with pure horror, which replaces 5 dmg with 5 planar dmg for all befriended shadow spiders.

An idea was to unlock the recipe, you’d need to find a spider with a shadow aura while insane, and that spider has a 5% chance to spawn if you haven’t unlocked the switcherdoodle. And if you befriend it, it’ll drop 1 nightmare fuel and give the switcherdoodle recipe.

 

shadow spider care II:

 

As you have gotten to understand the shadows, all shadowy equipment will be less demanding on the mind, and all shadowy creatures will seem a bit less threatening. The shadow queen has also nourished your passionate soul, and now have the idea for a soul strengthening cheer.

All shadow equipment will drain or consume 50% less sanity, & shadow creatures or shadow alligned creatures will drain 33% less sanity.

Learn to craft Flags of Rallies at the shadow plinth kit for 5 dark tatters, 4 pure horror, and 6 silk.

It works similarly to the mudslinger, and has a cooldown of 8 minutes.

It’s effects are that for 2 minutes all befriended spiders will gain buffs similar to acid rain, every befriended spider will receive 2-4 waves of +50 health with each wave every 5 seconds (they will all get the same amount of waves and the amount is random), and 5 shadow spiders charged with pure horror will be summoned and stay until they die, when Webber leaves the server, or when Webber uses the Flags of Rallies again to summon 5 new spiders.

The shadow spiders will slowly lose health when not in combat and always have 10 planar dmg on top of their usual dmg. They are not affected by buffs and totems nor do they go to travel dens, though can still be healed by nurses and by Webber.

 

Organization of skill tree:

A starter is that most of the skill tree would be in a heart shaped background with the friendship side being top left, web action being on the top right, and inner arachnid being at the bottom of the heart.

Inner arachnid:

It’s first skill would be the sleeping den buff, and then it would have 4 skills connected to it.

Below it would be the 2 healing skills. To the top left of the first skill would be no picky eater which then leads to the acid rain perk below it. To the bottom right of the first skill would be the night vision one, which then leads to the monkey like speed bonus skill.

Friendship:

It would start with the shoe box skill, then lead to the more spiders per meat skill which leads to the more switcher doodles on the top right and on the main branch to queen decorator, unbreakable friendship with a spider queen requirement next, and then to the unnatural brood and then to the carecrafts.

Web Action:

It would start with the less silk per upgrade skill, then have a side branch for social hunting which then leads to the work skill. Continuing on the main branch would be the silk fashionire, den relocater skill after, silk stitch after that, and finally the silk crafts.

Garden skills:

The garden spiders would be below the friendship branch, either connecting to the branch or require a set amount of skill and another requirement to access.

The other 2 farming skills would be below the Web action section and would work similar to the garden spiders skill.

The affinities would be at the sides or top corners outside the heart. Feel free to change it however you want, this is just a starter idea for the skill tree

[Naifxoxo]

produce the child

[BalkanCockroach]

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[Dr.Webber]

6 hours ago, Naifxoxo said:

produce the child

 

5 hours ago, BalkanCockroach said:

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What do you two mean?

Edited March 5 by Dr.Webber

[Dr.Webber]

On 2/28/2026 at 4:34 AM, Dr.Webber said:

should I design spiders as they look if he became a queen, which I’d imagine would either look like his base skin

If he became a queen, would his spawn look exactly how he does now because I feel like there would be some amount difference since they’re one entity rather than two in one body maybe the concept art with legs would be the more accurate design or maybe they would look like their normal baby spider except they confuse with powder monkeys or even Prime mates to make monkey spiders