wormwood123 Posted December 28, 2025 Share Posted December 28, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, Pig and beefalo said: Finally, an update to a game doesn't always have to bring a good experience, but rather a more logical one. I struggle to actually take anything you say seriously because you say stuff like this. If an update adds something which there is no amount of fun to be had that is a BAD update, games are meant to be FUN or enjoyable if you are having a bad time then its failed at its job. an update that changes something that is good into something bad not only harms the playerbase but the game as a whole. cooking is an essential part of the game, making this "more logical" would be weird. IF it is fun then yeah fine good update... BUT that is not what you want and i dunno if youve said exactly what you want from this because "I'm too lazy to reply to your useless and boring rebuttals anymore" But i do think cooking could be better but i think changing it from what it is now wouldnt be good i just think that crockpot foods should have extra effects. okay why did that post 4 times Edited December 28, 2025 by wormwood123 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169269-it-is-suggested-to-weaken-the-various-attributes-of-food-raw-materials/page/3/#findComment-1847381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Darks Posted December 28, 2025 Share Posted December 28, 2025 55 minutes ago, wormwood123 said: I struggle to actually take anything you say seriously because you say stuff like this. If an update adds something which there is no amount of fun to be had that is a BAD update, games are meant to be FUN or enjoyable if you are having a bad time then its failed at its job. an update that changes something that is good into something bad not only harms the playerbase but the game as a whole. cooking is an essential part of the game, making this "more logical" would be weird. IF it is fun then yeah fine good update... BUT that is not what you want and i dunno if youve said exactly what you want from this because "I'm too lazy to reply to your useless and boring rebuttals anymore" But i do think cooking could be better but i think changing it from what it is now wouldnt be good i just think that crockpot foods should have extra effects. okay why did that post 4 times This argument would only work if everyone unanimously agreed on what "fun" is. No matter what a developer does, not everyone's going to find that to be very "fun" or "fun" at all... Honestly hate how much the forums throw this word around as if they know eggsactly what other people find fun. "Fun" is not an argument, it is a personal opinion. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169269-it-is-suggested-to-weaken-the-various-attributes-of-food-raw-materials/page/3/#findComment-1847383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceShiki Posted December 28, 2025 Share Posted December 28, 2025 37 minutes ago, Nikki Darks said: This argument would only work if everyone unanimously agreed on what "fun" is. No matter what a developer does, not everyone's going to find that to be very "fun" or "fun" at all... Honestly hate how much the forums throw this word around as if they know eggsactly what other people find fun. "Fun" is not an argument, it is a personal opinion. That's not how game development works. Game devs need to figure out what the majority of the playerbase would find fun, and then they should make their updates based on that. If they fail to identify what the majority of the playerbase finds fun, then they'll most likely release updates that make them lose player count. Fun is subjective, but there is still a large number of people who find the same things fun. You just need to figure out what those things are when making a game. It's a part of the job of the game devs. Sure, you can't please everyone, but that's not important to the devs. As long as the majority of the playerbase is pleased, they'll still continue having steady or growing player counts... So yeah, fun is absolutely fundamental for game development. It's just that the fun that matters is the fun of the majority, not yours or mine personal definition of fun. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169269-it-is-suggested-to-weaken-the-various-attributes-of-food-raw-materials/page/3/#findComment-1847388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted December 28, 2025 Share Posted December 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Nikki Darks said: This argument would only work if everyone unanimously agreed on what "fun" is. No matter what a developer does, not everyone's going to find that to be very "fun" or "fun" at all... Honestly hate how much the forums throw this word around as if they know eggsactly what other people find fun. "Fun" is not an argument, it is a personal opinion. Well from what the poster pigandbeefalo describes I cannot fathom that being an enjoyable experience. And also they literally said the update wouldn’t be an enjoyable experience and would exist for logic so no while I cannot speak on fun I can speak on the lack of fun requested by the poster who I am at this point certain is a troll 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169269-it-is-suggested-to-weaken-the-various-attributes-of-food-raw-materials/page/3/#findComment-1847389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naifxoxo Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 On 12/27/2025 at 6:13 AM, Pig and beefalo said: First of all, I have never said that cooking is unimportant. You are distorting the facts. I am emphasizing that the attributes of the ingredients are so high that the cost-effectiveness of eating them is higher than some cooking methods. Moreover, drying racks are not as rare as you said. Materials are everywhere. If you are just wandering around, they are indeed very "expensive" for you. Secondly, I know that pig people are basic creatures. I don't mention them just because they don't have such a high cost-performance ratio, so I don't need to keep an eye on them all the time. Besides, their meat can also be placed on the clothes drying rack. Thirdly, let me stress it again. It's not difficult to obtain a large amount of fish meat, but I have no obligation to explain the method to you. If you are really interested, you can search for it yourself. Finally, if you want, you can get more Crock Pot and pig people. Meatballs and Meaty Stew will be enough for you. At least you won't starve. Yes, the cooking attributes are generally better, and you're absolutely right. But there will eventually be so many ingredients that eating them directly is more convenient than cooking. We won't always be wandering around the world. As for the slow recovery, this is an exploratory idea. There are two reasons why I have this idea: First, the instant recovery of ingredients will make more people overlook Healing Salve and tents because they are easy to obtain in large quantities, have good properties, and have a short pre-shake. Secondly, you can imagine what would happen if Wolfgang were equipped with marble armor and baked potatoes. This is indeed a way of thinking to restrict food recovery and it is quite reasonable. However, compared to changing the data and existing mechanisms, I don't know if they will introduce new food mechanisms. After all, the slow recovery mechanism exists in the current version and only requires simple changes. klei has added an easy mode preset. I believe most players will notice this. As for whether I will adjust my world Settings, it doesn't affect my suggestion. And you said no company would do this. I want you to go to Terraria and take a look at their difficulty Settings. Such Settings might even affect the game content. In comparison, my suggestion is already quite restrained. **It's not difficult to obtain a large amount of fish meat, but I have no obligation to explain the method to you. If you are really interested, you can search for it yourself** this is so braindead and even proves everything i said in my comment above , u cant even explain the methods cz they r locked behind millions of videos , again u proven my point , ppl who watched all these vids hours of hours ( u included ) mostly have like 9000 hrs in DST, just so u know we do have a life not everyone wants to be forced to watch these videos instead of actually playing the game n try to figure things out by ourselves, someone who has no life and only plays DST 25/8 should never change the way the new players play , or even the players who r only lookin to have fun. theres something called mods , u can make ur own mod that forces u to only be able to eat deerclop eyes so that the game becomes a *survival* . if theres any mod here they should js delete this post tbh , reading the suggestions and ur comments gives me a headache. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169269-it-is-suggested-to-weaken-the-various-attributes-of-food-raw-materials/page/3/#findComment-1847562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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