Maxwell Skilltree i saw in a dream tommorrow.

[Jakepeng99]

Skill 1: Increase spellcasting range

Skill 2:  Eat nightmare fuel.

Skill 3:Reads books without downsides.

Skill 4: Can  make a shadow beefalo. (It can also freely move over water like other shadows)

Skill 5: Book durability increased.

Skill 6: Shadow sneak scares for longer.

Skill 7: Shadow wall prevents mobs from attacking for a short period of time.

Skill 8: Maxwell can make a shadow smasher. Hammers everything nearby.

Skill 9: Can grow a magnificant beard. 

Skill 10: increased sanity regen. Works on nearby players.

Skill 11: Casts shadow metour.

Skill 12: Casts shadow cobblestone path.

Skill 13: Casts shadow fire.

Skill 14: Shadow mind control (works on players)

Skill 15: can now teleport to magician closets or shadow hats using either of which.

Skill 16:Casts shadow bridge.

Skill 17: Casts shadow saplings. One time harvest, need to wait a few days.

Skill 18:Shadow alignment: Shadows now have hp regenration. Add pure horror to his book to make his spells significantly stronger.

[Edible Coal]

stop dreaming

[Golden Daemon]

4 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Skill 9: Can grow a magnificant beard. 

Thats why i love his wizard skin

[POOH_LY]

Duelists now deal planar damage. (Not sure if planar defense is necessary since their ability to mitigate most of damage already makes them really good at surviving.
Puppets now have bigger radius. (Probably will benefit workers the most.)
Maybe some synergies for the cage and trap spells? Like, make his spells debuff enemies. Something like cause them to take more damage from Maxwell and his minions.

The usual shadow affinity perk like, Maxwell takes 10% less damage from shadow-aligned mobs and deals 10% extra damage to lunar-aligned ones. Not sure if his minions should have this as well. But his second shadow affinity perk should be powerful since he only has one option.
 

[Sacco]

Everything but please DO NOT add planar damage to his shadows. They are already broken, it will become a wurt 2.0. Wurt already demolished planar enemies but with her skill tree it just became a BORING overkill, and this will probably happen with Maxwell too…

Edited July 17, 2025 by Sacco

[POOH_LY]

39 minutes ago, Sacco said:

Everything but please DO NOT add planar damage to his shadows. They are already broken, it will become a wurt 2.0. Wurt already demolished planar enemies but with her skill tree it just became a BORING overkill, and this will probably happen with Maxwell too…

I understand your point, but it's just a theme with all the skill trees we have so far. Abigal, Birnie, merms, and other characters have them, so I think we we'll get one for Maxwell, too. Maybe similar to Wurt, where he needs to use pure horror to temporarily buff them.

[RexySeven]

Skill 19: Maxwell can now lift weights like Wolfgang.

[POOH_LY]

Skill 20: Maxwell can now craft a gaming chair.

[Sacco]

1 hour ago, POOH_LY said:

I understand your point, but it's just a theme with all the skill trees we have so far. Abigal, Birnie, merms, and other characters have them, so I think we we'll get one for Maxwell, too. Maybe similar to Wurt, where he needs to use pure horror to temporarily buff them.

yes yes, he’ll eventually get some. I am just saying that these buffs will be overkill and will not add anything cool… they will make the game more boring.

[Jakepeng99]

Just saw the dream today.

5 hours ago, Sacco said:

Everything but please DO NOT add planar damage to his shadows. They are already broken, it will become a wurt 2.0. Wurt already demolished planar enemies but with her skill tree it just became a BORING overkill, and this will probably happen with Maxwell too…

I agree. Maxwel should be nerfed and so should Wurt.

[Sacco]

19 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Just saw the dream today.

I agree. Maxwel should be nerfed and so should Wurt.

a cooldown to his shadow prison would be perfect honestly…

[Cruvimaster]

It's hard to understand DST's logic. If there are other more broken characters, why do most people play Wendy and Wigfrid?

[Bellium]

22 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Skill 2:  Eat nightmare fuel.

Skill 4: Can  make a shadow beefalo. (It can also freely move over water like other shadows)

Suggestion, can only eat nightmare fuel dropped by shadow beefalo, which will be called "nightmare meat" 

[Bumber64]

1 hour ago, Bellium said:

Suggestion, can only eat nightmare fuel dropped by shadow beefalo, which will be called "nightmare meat" 

"nightmare patties"

[Bellium]

37 minutes ago, Bumber64 said:

"nightmare patties"

used in a crockpot to make nightmare burgers

[Sacco]

11 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

It's hard to understand DST's logic. If there are other more broken characters, why do most people play Wendy and Wigfrid?

because they are very easy to play.

[BB Marioni]

On 7/17/2025 at 4:15 PM, Sacco said:

Everything but please DO NOT add planar damage to his shadows. They are already broken, it will become a wurt 2.0. Wurt already demolished planar enemies but with her skill tree it just became a BORING overkill, and this will probably happen with Maxwell too…

I always suggest adding a separate summon for his planar damage. maybe a single shadow creature that is tanky and deals planar damage, but cannot be summoned together with duelists

[Edible Coal]

1 hour ago, BB Marioni said:

I always suggest adding a separate summon for his planar damage. maybe a single shadow creature that is tanky and deals planar damage, but cannot be summoned together with duelists

just make it use like 75% max sanity

[SilverSpoon]

6 hours ago, Sacco said:

because they are very easy to play.

You’ve definitely never played as Wendy.

[Sacco]

1 hour ago, SilverSpoon said:

You’ve definitely never played as Wendy.

Wendy is easy to play…

[Cruvimaster]

8 hours ago, Sacco said:

because they are very easy to play.

That's exactly the point. Compared to COD, there they nerf something that's OP and everyone's using it to create a rotation. So they should nerf Wendy and Wigfrid, so people can use other characters. But here, what we see are requests to nerf characters that few people use.

1 hour ago, SilverSpoon said:

You’ve definitely never played as Wendy.

I played Wendy before she had a skill tree, and she was already ridiculously easy to survive. I can't imagine how strong she is now.

[SilverSpoon]

24 minutes ago, Sacco said:

Wendy is easy to play…

10 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said:

I played Wendy before she had a skill tree, and she was already ridiculously easy to survive. I can't imagine how strong she is now.

The only time things are easy for Wendy is when she’s fighting enemies Abigail can completely overwhelm, like spiders or the Antlion which can’t hurt Abigail at all. Against any enemy that can actually kill Abigail, playing Wendy is about as hard as controlling two characters at once.

The playstyle that makes Wendy "ridiculously easy" is turtling at base, never fighting bosses, and just farming spiders and hounds.

[Cruvimaster]

15 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said:

The playstyle that makes Wendy "ridiculously easy" is turtling at base, never fighting bosses, and just farming spiders and hounds.

Bee Queen is a boss I find quite challenging, but with Wendy, it's extremely easy. The "problem" with Wendy mains is being lazy, as they want Abigail to do everything for them. I say "lazy" because I was the same way when I played Wigfrid. 

Any nerf talk that doesn't take into account Wendy and Wigfrid's dominance should be handled very carefully by the developers.

Nerfing a character few people use? What's the logic behind that?

Edited July 18, 2025 by Cruvimaster

[Jakepeng99]

20 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

It's hard to understand DST's logic. If there are other more broken characters, why do most people play Wendy and Wigfrid?

Broken doesnt mean fun.

Also they are more relaxed characters since you start the game at an immediate stronger state than most.

11 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said:

Nerfing a character few people use? What's the logic behind that?

 

Then you make them more fun in their skilltree.

[SilverSpoon]

1 hour ago, Cruvimaster said:

Bee Queen is a boss I find quite challenging, but with Wendy, it's extremely easy. The "problem" with Wendy mains is being lazy, as they want Abigail to do everything for them. I say "lazy" because I was the same way when I played Wigfrid. 

Alas, the good old Elite Forum Boy's hate and personal attack at Wendy Player. When will we ever move on? Your laziness that you felt is no excuse for insulting other players.

What exactly is the definition of “extremely easy” or “ridiculously easy”? I ran my own test, and even fighting Bee Queen as Wendy still feels Dragonfly‑level hard. Bee Queen’s attack is nearly impossible to kite,   and deal 120 damage to Abigail, so if Wendy doesn’t tank, Abigail dies almost instantly. Therefore you need to manage the Health of two characters at the same time. 

"Blessed Sisturn III" can cut that hit to 60, but combined with the Grumble Bees’ attacks, it’s still more than enough to kill Abigail, Unsummoning her to heal doesn’t help much either, because the Grumble Bees will stun‑lock Wendy, making it difficult to resummon. The Scare command works, but Bee Queen spawns Grumble Bees so frequently that some slip through the Scare window.

Wigfrid and Walter is still easier. Walter in particular can just move and hold down F if he has a Thulecite Slingshot Frame and plenty of Slow‑Down Rounds.

Edited July 18, 2025 by SilverSpoon