CCCR33 Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 So there are only 5 jewel, right? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 38 minutes ago, CCCR33 said: So there are only 5 jewel, right? It would seem that we can’t Spoiler Especially if wagstaff won’t be there to retry his experiment 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waywarbler Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 The Celestial Scion does have an animation for dying in a (spoiler*) so it might respawn at some point. Spoiler *Wagstaff-less world. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 You can fight it again. It simply respawns like a usual raid boss, in 20 days. Spoiler Once Wagstaff is Banished, the player will be able to place the captured gestalts as the drones for the fight, and give the essence of the revenant directly to WARBOT to power it. The fight proceeds as usual, other than an alternative death animation given Wagstaff no longer exists. 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofy Happy Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 Shouldn't the answer to this problem be obvious with just a little testing? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 29 minutes ago, Sofy Happy said: Shouldn't the answer to this problem be obvious with just a little testing? Not everyone can test as not everyone is on pc or has the time for it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofy Happy Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 1 minute ago, wormwood123 said: Not everyone can test as not everyone is on pc or has the time for it If you don't have time to test, it's better not to answer at all—just wait for testers' conclusions instead of jumping to wrong assumptions. 1 hour ago, wormwood123 said: It would seem that we can’t 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 1 minute ago, Sofy Happy said: If you don't have time to test, it's better not to answer at all—just wait for testers' conclusions instead of jumping to wrong assumptions. Mistakes are a backbone of society and I am better off for making this mistake and learning unfortunately no one is perfect 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Muz Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 But if wagstaff is gone, how can you redo the moonstorm-event to gather a restrained static? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehun Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, El Muz said: But if wagstaff is gone, how can you redo the moonstorm-event to gather a restrained static? Player will be able to active static in moonstorm even though there is no Wagstaff you can still give tools to static (in any order) and catch storm Edited June 11, 2025 by kehun Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigfridge2137 Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 They should also make every planar boss like deerclops bearger varg drop spark ark even when the same boss is killed in a row many times. All quests should be made easier after Wagstaff is gone to justify even killing The last lunar boss Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuRuS Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, kehun said: Player will be able to active static in moonstorm even though there is no Wagstaff you can still give tools to static (in any order) and catch storm that is like prime example of 0 thoughts behind some of the designs, as if they completely forgot about pre-existing mechanics and went all out with new ideas. Where does the restrained static device come from if theres no wagstaff to bring it with him? Who actually needs the tools we provide? It's just sooo dumb god damn I HOPE there's something to take his place or maybe catching the storm works differently now on the dev build, maybe we catch it with a new device without the minigame? Also, how is defeating CC going to work without wagstaff "finishing his experiment"? Like please let us have something in wagstaff's place that at least makes it easier to farm CC and resources for the summoning as an addition to the lackluster reward from the actual "final" lunar boss. Also what about the spark arks? Do they just appear out of thin air for no reason at corrupted bosses' death? Since it was wagstaff giving them to us as a reward, there is nothing now that provides them Edited June 11, 2025 by AuRuS Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehun Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 5 minutes ago, AuRuS said: Also what about the spark arks? Do they just appear out of thin air for no reason at corrupted bosses' death? Since it was wagstaff giving them to us as a reward, there is nothing now that provides them Yup this works exactly how you texted arks are just dropping from air when boss is killed CC body falls immediately, Scrap fences are renewed even though Wagstaff is not leading you to junkyard Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceShiki Posted June 11, 2025 Share Posted June 11, 2025 4 hours ago, AuRuS said: that is like prime example of 0 thoughts behind some of the designs, as if they completely forgot about pre-existing mechanics and went all out with new ideas. Where does the restrained static device come from if theres no wagstaff to bring it with him? Who actually needs the tools we provide? It's just sooo dumb god damn I HOPE there's something to take his place or maybe catching the storm works differently now on the dev build, maybe we catch it with a new device without the minigame? Also, how is defeating CC going to work without wagstaff "finishing his experiment"? Like please let us have something in wagstaff's place that at least makes it easier to farm CC and resources for the summoning as an addition to the lackluster reward from the actual "final" lunar boss. Also what about the spark arks? Do they just appear out of thin air for no reason at corrupted bosses' death? Since it was wagstaff giving them to us as a reward, there is nothing now that provides them It's called "Gameplay-Story Segregation" or "Gameplay Trumps Flavor" you can choose which one you prefer. It's a pretty normal thing in gaming. Sometimes you just need to separate things to make the game still function. In this case, Wagstaff is part of a storyline that works perfectly fine when going through it linearly, but going through it again and again messes things up, so just chalk it up to gameplay being more important than flavor and leave it at that. It's not like Wagstaff needed you to kill the Celestial Champion multiple times anyways. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166316-cant-we-kill-the-boss-again%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1821277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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