CCCR33 Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 Without any other hotter targets, the missile is bound to hit the character And when there are hotter targets such as hot thermal stones, missiles no threat at all This is extreme Additionally, determining which item is hotter at different times can be very cumbersome, and there may be debates over whether certain items should be hotter suggestion Missiles can attack all targets, including all creatures, Houndius Shootius, Winona's Catapult, and more Missiles can attack the area where the target is located and launch more missiles But quickly leaving the locked area can avoid missiles 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuRuS Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 God forbid we get a new kinda fun mechanic added to the game >.> It's like complaining that you can disable todastool's entire attack by simply spamming weather pains - it's a part of the strategy and a way to minimize damage dealt to you in the fight, I suppose that even if they add the way for missiles to reduce thermal stone's durability with each hit it is still going to be a quite expencive way of dealing with that attack and I assure you that over the next couple weeks people are going to come up with some way of negating it entirely - just like you can negate mushtrees spawning by spamming beaten walls all over the toadstool's arena 15 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple49856 Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 @AuRuSyou need to consider that the way thermals work is extremely janky and outdated They do not work at distracting missiles for a solid ammount of the in game year And having only a single viable strategy for dealing with them is extremely restrictive 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1808220958 Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 (edited) I have to say that this update is indeed a huge exploration of Boos attack methods. The player has this designated ranged attack, so why can't BOOS have it? If you want to talk about the downside, I think it's probably because the stun backswing after being attacked can be irritating. I think it would be better if we could change the damage of the homing missile to a combined high-damage missile. Ensures that players will not be infinitely attacked due to boos skills. Players have to move to dodge or fill in early. Edited May 25, 2025 by 1808220958 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrapeVruit Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, AuRuS said: God forbid we get a new kinda fun mechanic added to the game >.> Fun? In what world is spamming dwarf stars and crafting a dozen thermal stones fun? It's annoying, tedious, and makes the threat of the missiles nonexistent, which makes it less fun since you're not even engaging with the actual mechanic! I can vouch for it being an interesting mechanic, but a fun one? Not even close. Also, weather pains aren't mandatory deal with Toad's sporecaps. Sure, other methods aren't as fast as using weather pains, but at least you have options instead of using a single strategy. Edited May 25, 2025 by GrapeVruit 3 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Giga Chet said: The heat seeking system in a dynamic way is very cool. Just because the best way to do it has been established, doesn't mean there are other options players will figure out, like burning grass, twigs or rot. Unfortunately, those methods aren't very effective. The drones put it out nearly instantly so it's pretty difficult to get a bunch of items on fire. It's the best way because it's really the only method that works unless you're Willow. Edited May 25, 2025 by Radicaljoe 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waywarbler Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 I don't really want the missiles to be reduced to just, another attack you run around to avoid. Maybe regular fires shouldn't be instantly extinguished, so you could construct and manage a campfire or something to redirect all the missiles, or, as somebody here mentioned, light a bunch of grass or logs on fire to avoid an entire volley. (Also, it's currently not very clear that these are heat-seeking. Maybe Wagstaff can call out what attacks WARBOT has as it does them, as if he's advertising its features. i.e. "WARBOT also comes equipped with heat-seeking Thermalock Missiles!") 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 I think it would be more interesting where the missiles stay heat seeking but they are weak at seeking . And instead of it being a barrage attack it's a straight shot like the bishop. It's slower though. So you can dodge it if you move sideways. But the missiles rotate around to seek their target so that means they are not just negated by one method and are still a threat after being dealt with. These heat source missiles have a self destruction timer so the field doesn't get filled with them. And when that time is expiring they act as a boom shroom 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 18 minutes ago, DVGMedia said: I think it would be more interesting where the missiles stay heat seeking but they are weak at seeking . And instead of it being a barrage attack it's a straight shot like the bishop. It's slower though. So you can dodge it if you move sideways. But the missiles rotate around to seek their target so that means they are not just negated by one method and are still a threat after being dealt with. These heat source missiles have a self destruction timer so the field doesn't get filled with them. And when that time is expiring they act as a boom shroom Yeah that was annoying they don't explode after a time. Had fun with turning speed mult up to 5, and they never exploded. Had enough of them following me to instantly kill bearger. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 (edited) just make ice amulet and cold circuit protect from being able to be locked on, aswell as actually freezing. Edited May 25, 2025 by Well-met 6 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmAFurrz Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 10 hours ago, AuRuS said: God forbid we get a new kinda fun mechanic added to the game >.> its not fun. its key-and-lock design, what kinda 'fun' dynamic is to be made out of the missiles? you get a heatsource, put thermals and you disable that attack. boring interaction and idk why klei thought something THIS key-and-lock should be added. its not even like larvae being killed by simply being frozen as you can just alternatively kill them instead of forcing the player to use ice staves/flingo. plus, the missiles are spammed its impossible to deal with even with range since im gonna hazard a guess klei will maybe add a health bar thats too tanky for their spammed nature if they even do keep the boring attack 9 hours ago, Apple49856 said: They do not work at distracting missiles for a solid ammount of the in game year yep. when you have no key for the stupid lock, you cant form many strats that are satisfying for you to employ and keep the fight engaging 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCCR33 Posted May 26, 2025 Author Share Posted May 26, 2025 In fact, heat-seeking missiles is very cool But once the missile is locked, it will definitely hit, which is very frustrating It would be more interesting if one could use Boomerang, Fire Staff to detonate missiles in advance, Ice Staff to delay missiles, or characters hiding behind tall walls to avoid missiles 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmAFurrz Posted May 26, 2025 Share Posted May 26, 2025 2 hours ago, CCCR33 said: tall walls to avoid missiles would be interesting, makes use of ranged weapons more if this is the case (also bc of how tanky newer walls are it wouldnt be the worst idea, moonrock/dreadstone walls last basically forever) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted May 26, 2025 Share Posted May 26, 2025 Does ice crystaleyezer work at all? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1817962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetrice Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 The one problem with this attack is that you just can't dodge it without a heat source, and the player would have no idea that the missiles are heat seeking. Make it difficult to dodge, so that it rewards skill, but keep the heat seeking property so that it also rewards creativity/intelligence. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1818259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semind Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 On 5/26/2025 at 5:00 AM, Bumber64 said: Does ice crystaleyezer work at all? In the bug tracker, it sounds like they're going to make it work in an update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1818267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thieverpedia Posted May 28, 2025 Share Posted May 28, 2025 Honestly, they'd be a lot easier to deal with if there weren't so many volleys and didn't put out stars in one shot. They're currently a massive unavoidable death trap without cheese. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1818332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted May 28, 2025 Share Posted May 28, 2025 can you burn the robot? to make itself become heat? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1818379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted May 28, 2025 Share Posted May 28, 2025 (edited) i would like to see the dev who design this to live stream fighting them Edited May 28, 2025 by Edible Coal 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1818393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted May 28, 2025 Share Posted May 28, 2025 i think the game sould tell you that they are heat seeking because it dont seem theres any hints to that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165921-suggestion-cancel-heat-seeking-missiles/#findComment-1818488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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