Klei's worst decision

[Hungry French]

What led to the death of Klei's most important game, which gave their company a future.
That's what divided the community into 2 camps. 
That's what made Klei spend a lot of money on unprofitable DLCs and upgrades for DS. 
Something that still causes controversy and discord in the community.

 

 

[Uedo]

Why do you exclusively post the same talking points, if people don't agree with you - move on.

[Radicaljoe]

What are you going on about? 
DS was the original single-player game. It finished, now Klei is focused on DST, which is the second game.
 

Also, DS still has over 1k people playing it. that's not "dead", definitely less popular than DST, but dead is not the correct term.

Klei even went back and did massive bug fixes like a year or two ago for DS so it would be more polished.

as for the rest of the claims-
It didn't separate people into 2 camps, all 3 DLC's were rather profitable for DS, and I have literally never seen anyone complain about this issue other than you so idk where this massive discord controversy is coming from.

[YouKnowWho142]

I guess people really hate the idea that a game can be finished instead of forever incomplete

live service is a plague and it causes mindsets like this post

Edited May 15, 2025 by YouKnowWho142

[PonyOfApocalips]

Because DS can't work as multiplayer game.

In multiplayer you need to have easier way to revive, features that force u to help other people (lower max health, senity drain when other player are ghosts). DST boats all also focused on co-op and DS are just one person vehicle.

You just can't have good multiplayer gameplay in singleplayer builded world. Just adding multiplayer to DS would be same thing as adding second player to portal 1 levels.

[Hungry French]

1 hour ago, Uedo said:

Зачем вы постоянно публикуете одни и те же тезисы? Если люди с вами не согласны — двигайтесь дальше.

I'm just bored. I'm trying to entertain myself between work, trying to force myself to play DST and have fun ( not disgusting ) and play LoL.

22 minutes ago, Radicaljoe said:

О чём вы говорите?
DS была оригинальной одиночной игрой. Она закончилась, и теперь Клей сосредоточен на DST, второй игре.
 

Кроме того, в DS по-прежнему играют более 1000 человек. Это не «мёртвая» игра, она определённо менее популярна, чем DST, но «мёртвая» — не совсем правильный термин.

Клей даже вернулся и исправил множество ошибок, которые были в DS год или два назад, чтобы сделать игру более совершенной.

что касается остальных претензий -
Это не разделило людей на 2 лагеря, все 3 DLC были довольно прибыльными для DS, и я буквально никогда не видел, чтобы кто-нибудь жаловался на эту проблему, кроме вас, так что подумайте, откуда берется эта массовая полемика в discord.

Klei focused on DST back in 2014.  Dead means forgotten by the developers. Can't you see how much content and its quality is constantly appearing in DST? 
And against the background of DST, the game really seems to be dead. Take a look at the DS forums. They are dead because nothing has happened for 2 years, and before that for another 5 years. 
Would you be able to wait 5 years for the DST update?

I'm surprised you haven't seen it. I've seen 10 people who don't like it.  I'm sure most of them abandoned the game because Klei doesn't make content for DS. 
Waiting for an update for 5 years for a single version of DST is not cool

18 minutes ago, YouKnowWho142 said:

Полагаю, людям очень не нравится мысль о том, что игру можно закончить, а не оставлять незавершённой навсегда

живое обслуживание - это чума, и оно вызывает умонастроения, подобные этому посту

Don't you think there are too many updates and support compared to DS? 
There is also no 2024 and 2025 here. 
And all the DS and RoG updates have been added to the game.

17 minutes ago, PonyOfApocalips said:

Потому что DS не может работать как многопользовательская игра.

В мультиплеере вам нужен более простой способ оживления, функции, которые заставляют вас помогать другим людям (более низкое максимальное количество здоровья, истощение памяти, когда другой игрок - призрак). Все лодки DST также ориентированы на кооперацию, а DS - это всего лишь транспортное средство для одного человека.

Вы просто не сможете создать хороший многопользовательский игровой процесс в одиночном мире. Просто добавить многопользовательский режим в DS — это то же самое, что добавить второго игрока в уровни Portal 1.

Good. Why doesn't Klei add a single mode to DST?

[WilsonHiggs]

Klei's worst decision: focus on the most profitable version of the game

Are you the reincarnation of Stephen hawking itself?

[Hungry French]

1 minute ago, WilsonHiggs said:

Klei's worst decision: focus on the most profitable version of the game

Are you the reincarnation of Stephen hawking itself?

Spending money on a separate game and dls for an unprofitable game. 
How much content would we have received if Klei hadn't spent time developing Shipwrecked and Hamlet and DS mini updates. Very much.

Are you the embodiment of TrollFace in real life?

[WilsonHiggs]

3 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

Spending money on a separate game and dls for an unprofitable game. 
How much content would we have received if Klei hadn't spent time developing Shipwrecked and Hamlet and DS mini updates. Very much.

Are you the embodiment of TrollFace in real life?

You love to say non senses non stop without knowing anything about the topic

- DS build didn't tolerate a lot of content. They had a lot of problems developing the dlcs and they create a lot of problems afterwards 

- the community asked for multiplayer and become more successful while it got a little better code to play around

- they always considered solo players except at the beginning of ANR with toadstool but they rectified 

- they have been releasing sh*tty content with bad balance so even people like you can beat the game easily to the point of the game becoming boring and very casual for 2 players

 

No, they didn't make a bad decision when DST is usually at top 50 in steam and keeps growing.

The only bad decision is mine for engaging in your topics

[Maxil20]

46 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

I'm just bored. I'm trying to entertain myself between work, trying to force myself to play DST and have fun

…Why are you trying to force yourself to play DST if you very clearly don’t like DST as a whole? Wouldn’t it be better if you just played games that are innately interesting to you and you don’t have to force yourself to have fun?

Like, I’m not even trying to be mean here, but you very clearly hate this game and everything it stands for. You would be so much better off playing something you actually enjoy than keep pretending to have fun on a game series you no longer like and haven’t liked for a very long time.

[CyberSkink]

2 minutes ago, Maxil20 said:

…Why are you trying to force yourself to play DST if you very clearly don’t like DST as a whole? Wouldn’t it be better if you just played games that are innately interesting to you and you don’t have to force yourself to have fun?

Like, I’m not even trying to be mean here, but you very clearly hate this game and everything it stands for. You would be so much better off playing something you actually enjoy than keep pretending to have fun on a game series you no longer like and haven’t liked for a very long time.

I agree. If you could allow us to recommend some new games, we’d be happy to help. Just because the internet is toxic doesn’t mean it has to stay toxic.

[Hungry French]

Just now, WilsonHiggs said:

Вы любите говорить без умолку, ничего не зная о теме- Сборка DS не выдерживала большого количества контента. У них было много проблем с разработкой дополнений, и впоследствии они создавали много проблем

And what prevented you from completely rewriting the engine instead of creating a separate game instead of releasing a separate game? And release DLC's for DST ?

 

1 minute ago, WilsonHiggs said:

— сообщество попросило добавить многопользовательский режим и стало более успешным, когда получило немного улучшенный код для игры

Why didn't they add it to the DS?

 

3 minutes ago, WilsonHiggs said:

- they always considered solo players except at the beginning of ANR with toadstool but they rectified

Show me the words Klei. All I see everywhere is that Klei advertises DST as a multiplayer game. There is also content in the game that either doesn't work or doesn't work properly.

 

5 minutes ago, WilsonHiggs said:

- they have been releasing sh*tty content with bad balance so even people like you can beat the game easily to the point of the game becoming boring and very casual for 2 players

If you think DST is a difficult game, then you're a huge noob.  There is no challenge here. This is a game about grinding clothes and items. 
The most difficult part of DST is the mediocre bosses with a disgusting 30-second soundtrack, with the number of attacks that can be counted on one hand. They can be a threat only because you don't have enough resources to kill them.  Moreover, they were originally created very simple and not annoying for teams and only for solo, these bosses pose a threat due to Klei's unwillingness to balance the game for solo. Because they only think about her in DS.

And what complexity are you talking about? Almost all bosses are killed in 1-2 attempts. And if you fail, you can just roll back the server.
In Spider Man 2, you fight the final boss for 40 minutes. And this boss is 100 times better in all aspects than Misery Toadstool.

17 minutes ago, WilsonHiggs said:

No, they didn't make a bad decision when DST is usually at top 50 in steam and keeps growing.

Klei could have achieved much more. So this is a bad decision. Wasting time on DS was a mistake.

[Mr Giggio]

What is even your point here?

What are you trying to prove?