Winona's New Skills

[icetwig]

Not sure this is the place for this but did not know where to post this.  

Always played Winona, never saw her as a swap character... her new skills are awesome and on that note... it would be nice if the developers improved these two aspects.... if she can pick what wormhole she travels to why is this not an option in her teleports?? It seems silly since it appears that the mechanics are there? 

Another thing is that when Winona teleports, she can bring anything around her... WHY NOT a player standing next to her??  I don't think this is breaking anything since she already brings the close objects with her and you have to be Winona to use any of these. 

[Baark0]

you can place lazy deserters throughout your world near telepads to kinda get a similar effect. just keep some banana shakes in a polar bearger bin to offset the sanity drain and youll be fine

[icetwig]

2 hours ago, Baark0 said:

you can place lazy deserters throughout your world near telepads to kinda get a similar effect. just keep some banana shakes in a polar bearger bin to offset the sanity drain and youll be fine

Yeah I do that but it seems silly since the system to teleport your surroundings is there.... and it affects nothing.

[YouKnowWho142]

21 hours ago, icetwig said:

Always played Winona, never saw her as a swap character... her new skills are awesome and on that note... it would be nice if the developers improved these two aspects.... if she can pick what wormhole she travels to why is this not an option in her teleports?? It seems silly since it appears that the mechanics are there? 

The way I always saw it is that you can choose wormholes to teleport to with the downside of not being able to move the wormholes, while telepads are way easier to control but encourages you to use fewer of them. For 2 different teleport perks this seems fine enough to me, telepad already has a massive advantage over wormholes due to their portability and being able to choose telepads (which can already be done between at least 2-3 telepads which isnt even including the enlightened shard tactic) would really make it hard to justify the wormhole perk.

and as mentioned before, lazy deserter is fine enough for teleporting others. Every other group teleport has a cost of some sort and it doesnt make a lot of sense for winona to be an exception.

[icetwig]

On 4/8/2025 at 9:43 AM, YouKnowWho142 said:

due to their portability and being able to choose telepads (which can already be done between at least 2-3 telepads which isnt even including the enlightened shard tactic) 

 

Harder to do on console.... what enlightened shard tactic?

[YouKnowWho142]

16 hours ago, icetwig said:

Harder to do on console.... what enlightened shard tactic?

When you teleport to a telepad powered by an enlightened shard it is disabled for a few seconds, so if you have a few telepads across the map powered by enlightened shards all you’d have to do is teleport until you’re at your intended destination

you can easily and reasonably set up a lot of telepads across the world that way even if you don’t want to evenly space every telepad, which have their own advantages over other teleport methods. You can’t really be setting up more than 2 or 3 telepads anyways without enlightened shards since you have to upkeep the gens, so burning out enlightened gens to go where you want seems like pretty much what you wanted regardless

[Pcwer]

When a telepad is an equal distance between two or more (typically three) telepads you can select which one to port to by where you stand on the telepad. So if you want to choose where to TP, you're going to have to set up a network carefully, usually with the help of the teletransport planner mod.

[icetwig]

On 4/13/2025 at 12:06 PM, Pcwer said:

When a telepad is an equal distance between two or more (typically three) telepads you can select which one to port to by where you stand on the telepad. So if you want to choose where to TP, you're going to have to set up a network carefully, usually with the help of the teletransport planner mod.

Cant really space them on console  :-/

On 4/12/2025 at 5:15 PM, YouKnowWho142 said:

When you teleport to a telepad powered by an enlightened shard it is disabled for a few seconds, so if you have a few telepads across the map powered by enlightened shards all you’d have to do is teleport until you’re at your intended destination

you can easily and reasonably set up a lot of telepads across the world that way even if you don’t want to evenly space every telepad, which have their own advantages over other teleport methods. You can’t really be setting up more than 2 or 3 telepads anyways without enlightened shards since you have to upkeep the gens, so burning out enlightened gens to go where you want seems like pretty much what you wanted regardless

I have the Energy Efficiency perk so it does not do that,  i did have the other perk "volley" but honestly the efficiency works better for me and with that skill,  it does not overcharge and power off.

[qwp18]

On 4/13/2025 at 2:15 AM, YouKnowWho142 said:

When you teleport to a telepad powered by an enlightened shard it is disabled for a few seconds, so if you have a few telepads across the map powered by enlightened shards all you’d have to do is teleport until you’re at your intended destination

This is such wisdom, thank you so much for sharing this!

Will be a giant help as a console player for sure. 

[YouKnowWho142]

3 hours ago, icetwig said:

I have the Energy Efficiency perk so it does not do that,  i did have the other perk "volley" but honestly the efficiency works better for me and with that skill,  it does not overcharge and power off.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here, and I never brought up "volley" at any point. A telepad connected to an enlightened GEMerator will always overcharge regardless of the skills you're using, so I'm not sure what you're actually trying to argue here

[icetwig]

2 hours ago, YouKnowWho142 said:

I have no idea what you're trying to say here, and I never brought up "volley" at any point. A telepad connected to an enlightened GEMerator will always overcharge regardless of the skills you're using, so I'm not sure what you're actually trying to argue here

Winona's Skill tree has "Skills"one set of then is "Explosive Volley" and the other side of sets is "Greater Generator" I use the latter for energy efficiency.... if you do that,  the G.E.M.erators will NOT overcharge from a simple teleport. 

[YouKnowWho142]

15 hours ago, icetwig said:

Winona's Skill tree has "Skills"one set of then is "Explosive Volley" and the other side of sets is "Greater Generator" I use the latter for energy efficiency.... if you do that,  the G.E.M.erators will NOT overcharge from a simple teleport. 

That’s… outright untrue? I use all three greater generator skills and my teleports caused overcharges, I’m not sure where this is coming from

To be clear, it only happens if the telepads are far enough, if they are too close then the overcharge will not trigger

[Frosty_Mentos]

I still wish she had giga batteries that she could have built as well as pylons to conduct electricity with.

[icetwig]

4 hours ago, YouKnowWho142 said:

That’s… outright untrue? I use all three greater generator skills and my teleports caused overcharges, I’m not sure where this is coming from

To be clear, it only happens if the telepads are far enough, if they are too close then the overcharge will not trigger

Ahhh that I have not tested but will do.  

I think mine were kinda close

[Radicaljoe]

I can understand the argument of not being allowed to pick your teleport on the map because that's the downside of being able to place it anywhere unlike worm holes, but also consider wormholes are free.

Teleporter I paid for a generator, the teleporter itself, the telebrella, AND however many caches it took, as well as the general energy cost of every single teleport. I think it's beyond fair to just let us choose on the map instead of limiting common utility to 2-3 teleporters or making people do trigonometry to accommodate more than 3 teleporters in a world.