Lee Sy Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 8 minutes ago, mima_ said: lol isnt that why u here cus u want engagement from forum user. Klei already said that they will read even u post in chinese. but all this post was because CHINESE PEOPLE FEEL THEIR POST IGNORED BY FORUM USERS. post got burried. and cry that Klei u said we can use chinese here but why my post is ignored and burried by 10 other posts with 100 replies . if you are cool with no discussion forum then feel free to post in chinese cus u get attention from klei. while got burried in second page cus noone engage in it. we might have time and translate every once a while, but isnt it better if u atleast put bare minimun translation, we dont even expect it with super fluent first speaker standart. Plz, Chinese title post were ignored by other users? Who are you guys, Chinese players or devlopers? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Tangerine Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 22 minutes ago, mima_ said: wow sekarang dr "entitled" jadi " hipokrit", jadi kalian sadar bahasa inggris sepenting itu. kalian bisa google atau tanya AI bahasa apa nomer 1 di dunia? cus im good person i include the text so u can translate the pic Reveal hidden contents Apa bahasa nomor 1 di dunia? 10 Bahasa Ini Paling Banyak Digunakan di Dunia, Indonesia ... 1. Bahasa Inggris - 1,452 Miliar Penutur. Bahasa Inggris adalah bahasa Internasional yang resmi. developer might "give u a special treatment" by understanding all your post in your own language. but dont expect engagement from other forum user. and feeling super important that your post got burried cus you post in full block of chinese characters and yell " bruh chinese post got ignored. what a racist group" when people just have little to no effort to translate and engage in such post. I think you're muddying the waters here, making sure Klei effectively listens to Chinese players doesn't mean we're asking for "special treatment", which should not be ignored given the huge percentage of Chinese players in the overall player base, but at the same time I do think it's worth trying to cool things down and wait for Klei's response, I just don't think there's much time left for Klei. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 19 minutes ago, webberer said: I am quoting you because you seems to misunderstand what this post is talking about. im here cus chinese people so denial. when klei already explain what their "support" means. they will give more effort to understand your post to send them to their translating team. u are here cus u cry, when people ask you for english translation. cus chinese to english prone to have weird translation instead of english to chinese. this post is spark cus chinese post get burried to second page cus little to no engagemnt in discussion cus people have little effort to translating each sentence (worse if u dont even use any paragraph space or any punctuation. 12 minutes ago, Blue Tangerine said: I think you're muddying the waters here, making sure Klei effectively listens to Chinese players doesn't mean we're asking for "special treatment", which should not be ignored given the huge percentage of Chinese players in the overall player base, but at the same time I do think it's worth trying to cool things down and wait for Klei's response, I just don't think there's much time left for Klei. why you so sure that klei ignored your post in chinese anyway? when they already said they will translate each post so they understand u as their part of being "supportive" ur idea dont make it, its simply the freedom of developer. not them ignoring ur post. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadratordo Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 Ecco qui, un bell'esempio sul perché è necessario che venga previsto l'uso di una singola lingua in un sito come questo. Vi ricordo che stiamo parlando di un forum; un luogo dove una comunità può discutere collettivamente. Introdurre una seconda lingua, specialmente se questa non ha nulla in comune con quella originale (il che rende anche i traduttori automatici qualcosa di non affidabile), pone un divario invalicabile tra chiunque sia nativo/competente in una lingua e chi lo è per l'altra. Per quanto mi riguarda, l'Inglese dovrebbe rimanere l'unica lingua ammessa in questo forum, essendo di fatto la lingua franca mondiale, certamente non per la quantità di anglofoni nativi. Sembrerebbe che il problema qui sia perlopiù la mancante presenza della Klei nei forum Cinesi, il che ha causato in quella community un senso di abbandono, che dunque si è riversata su questo forum, non avendo altri modi per comunicare direttamente con la Klei. La soluzione a ciò sarebbe nell'aumento della presenza della Klei nella community Cinese, non il riversarsi di essa qui, dato il problema esplicato sopra. Non mi aspetto che ogni persona al mondo sia in grado di parlare una lingua comune, ma l'unità linguistica è essenziale per fare uso di questo sito; altrimenti si farebbe prima a ridurre le comunicazioni con la Klei a meri feedback diretti e lasciare a loro l'utilizzo del traduttore. Inutile dire, non sarebbe una buona idea. And here goes a nice example as to why it's necessary for sites like this one to only accept the use of a single language, whichever one it might be. You're free to translate the message above and risk misunderstanding my point due to translating inaccuracies (and remember, it's much worse going from Chinese to English than it is with Italian!) , or you could not do that and wrongly perceive this paragraph as inflammatory. Either way, my point will be made, and the only thing left to do is for Klei to take a stand in the matter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Tangerine Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 39 minutes ago, mima_ said: im here cus chinese people so denial. when klei already explain what their "support" means. they will give more effort to understand your post to send them to their translating team. u are here cus u cry, when people ask you for english translation. cus chinese to english prone to have weird translation instead of english to chinese. this post is spark cus chinese post get burried to second page cus little to no engagemnt in discussion cus people have little effort to translating each sentence (worse if u dont even use any paragraph space or any punctuation. why you so sure that klei ignored your post in chinese anyway? when they already said they will translate each post so they understand u as their part of being "supportive" ur idea dont make it, its simply the freedom of developer. not them ignoring ur post. I must clarify to you that I did not post any opinions about myself in the Beta Branch, all my posts had the same purpose, I ask Klei to give an effective solution to the "language issue", which has led to too much tension and conflict, and created a toxic atmosphere. On the other hand, if Klei really listened to Chinese players as it promised, the Wendy controversy would have been resolved long ago, instead of the repeated and inefficient modification now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 1 minute ago, Blue Tangerine said: if Klei really listened to Chinese players as it promised, the Wendy controversy would have been resolved long ago, instead of the repeated and inefficient modification now. like i said they listened but the final is their decision, its not democracy, its their freedom as developers. demanding to be listened to each of every suggestion is impossible, while its sound super entitled to other users. them making change differently than what u expect is just the way it is. they didnt share the same view as you. and its frigin legal. its creativity freedom. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Tangerine Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 3 minutes ago, Quadratordo said: Ecco qui, un bell'esempio sul perché è necessario che venga previsto l'uso di una singola lingua in un sito come questo. Vi ricordo che stiamo parlando di un forum; un luogo dove una comunità può discutere collettivamente. Introdurre una seconda lingua, specialmente se questa non ha nulla in comune con quella originale (il che rende anche i traduttori automatici qualcosa di non affidabile), pone un divario invalicabile tra chiunque sia nativo/competente in una lingua e chi lo è per l'altra. Per quanto mi riguarda, l'Inglese dovrebbe rimanere l'unica lingua ammessa in questo forum, essendo di fatto la lingua franca mondiale, certamente non per la quantità di anglofoni nativi. Sembrerebbe che il problema qui sia perlopiù la mancante presenza della Klei nei forum Cinesi, il che ha causato in quella community un senso di abbandono, che dunque si è riversata su questo forum, non avendo altri modi per comunicare direttamente con la Klei. La soluzione a ciò sarebbe nell'aumento della presenza della Klei nella community Cinese, non il riversarsi di essa qui, dato il problema esplicato sopra. Non mi aspetto che ogni persona al mondo sia in grado di parlare una lingua comune, ma l'unità linguistica è essenziale per fare uso di questo sito; altrimenti si farebbe prima a ridurre le comunicazioni con la Klei a meri feedback diretti e lasciare a loro l'utilizzo del traduttore. Inutile dire, non sarebbe una buona idea. And here goes a nice example as to why it's necessary for sites like this one to only accept the use of a single language, whichever one it might be. You're free to translate the message above and risk misunderstanding my point due to translating inaccuracies (and remember, it's much worse going from Chinese to English than it is with Italian!) , or you could not do that and wrongly perceive this paragraph as inflammatory. Either way, my point will be made, and the only thing left to do is for Klei to take a stand in the matter. I fully understand and agree with the use of English in the forum, but I think Klei needs to post a clarification on Bilibili instead of the forum, and this kind of misinformation needs to be stopped in a timely manner. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sy Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 37 minutes ago, mima_ said: im here cus chinese people so denial. when klei already explain what their "support" means. they will give more effort to understand your post to send them to their translating team. u are here cus u cry, when people ask you for english translation. cus chinese to english prone to have weird translation instead of english to chinese. this post is spark cus chinese post get burried to second page cus little to no engagemnt in discussion cus people have little effort to translating each sentence (worse if u dont even use any paragraph space or any punctuation. why you so sure that klei ignored your post in chinese anyway? when they already said they will translate each post so they understand u as their part of being "supportive" ur idea dont make it, its simply the freedom of developer. not them ignoring ur post. Obviously, this post was for Klei, no matter how you try to explain what's the meaning of support, you are not JoeW, are you his sub-account? Even if you guys have replied so much in each solely Chinese title post, Klei were still enjoying their vacation? I mean it's useless to argue with other users, we had no grievances or enmity before after all. 这个帖子显然是给科雷看的，无论你如何解释支持中文是什么意思，你又不是joew，还是说你是他的小号？即使你们已经在纯中文标题下回复了这么多。科雷仍然在享受他们的假期。和其他用户争论是没有意义的，我们之间并无瓜葛。 We need Klei to contact with Chinese players or produce satisfactory update content, the latter has failed in 2024, so it's fair to meet the former: listening to the voice from China. But it seems that they are always busy on enjoying their weekend and vacation according to other users' replies. 我们需要科雷与中国玩家取得联系，或者产出足以让人满意的更新内容，后者在2024年已然失败了，所以要求他们满足前者并不过分——听取中国玩家的声音。但根据其他用户所言，他们总是很忙，忙着享受假期和周末。 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadratordo Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, Blue Tangerine said: I fully understand and agree with the use of English in the forum, but I think Klei needs to post a clarification on Bilibili instead of the forum, and this kind of misinformation needs to be stopped in a timely manner. Oh yes, I'm absolutely with you on that one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 1 minute ago, Lee Sy said: Obviously, this post was for Klei, no matter how you try to explain what's the meaning of support, you are not JoeW, are you his sub-account? Even if you guys have replied so much in each solely Chinese title post, Klei were still enjoying their vacation? I mean it's useless to argue with other users, we had no grievances or enmity before after all. We need Klei to contact with Chinese players or produce satisfactory update content, the latter has failed in 2024, so it's fair to meet the former: listening to the voice from China. But it seems that they are always busy on enjoying their weekend and vacation according to other users' replies. like i said they listened but the final is their decision, its not democracy, its their freedom as developers. demanding to be listened to each of every suggestion is impossible, while its sound super entitled to other users. them making change differently than what u expect is just the way it is. they didnt share the same view as you. and its frigin legal. its creativity freedom. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
webberer Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 11 minutes ago, mima_ said: im here cus chinese people so denial. when klei already explain what their "support" means. they will give more effort to understand your post to send them to their translating team. Do you even know what yourself are saying? Lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sy Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 25 minutes ago, Quadratordo said: Ecco qui, un bell'esempio sul perché è necessario che venga previsto l'uso di una singola lingua in un sito come questo. Vi ricordo che stiamo parlando di un forum; un luogo dove una comunità può discutere collettivamente. Introdurre una seconda lingua, specialmente se questa non ha nulla in comune con quella originale (il che rende anche i traduttori automatici qualcosa di non affidabile), pone un divario invalicabile tra chiunque sia nativo/competente in una lingua e chi lo è per l'altra. Per quanto mi riguarda, l'Inglese dovrebbe rimanere l'unica lingua ammessa in questo forum, essendo di fatto la lingua franca mondiale, certamente non per la quantità di anglofoni nativi. Sembrerebbe che il problema qui sia perlopiù la mancante presenza della Klei nei forum Cinesi, il che ha causato in quella community un senso di abbandono, che dunque si è riversata su questo forum, non avendo altri modi per comunicare direttamente con la Klei. La soluzione a ciò sarebbe nell'aumento della presenza della Klei nella community Cinese, non il riversarsi di essa qui, dato il problema esplicato sopra. Non mi aspetto che ogni persona al mondo sia in grado di parlare una lingua comune, ma l'unità linguistica è essenziale per fare uso di questo sito; altrimenti si farebbe prima a ridurre le comunicazioni con la Klei a meri feedback diretti e lasciare a loro l'utilizzo del traduttore. Inutile dire, non sarebbe una buona idea. And here goes a nice example as to why it's necessary for sites like this one to only accept the use of a single language, whichever one it might be. You're free to translate the message above and risk misunderstanding my point due to translating inaccuracies (and remember, it's much worse going from Chinese to English than it is with Italian!) , or you could not do that and wrongly perceive this paragraph as inflammatory. Either way, my point will be made, and the only thing left to do is for Klei to take a stand in the matter. Have explained in other topic, repeat here. what we are call for is simple: update the DST as before(too lazy in 2024), if not→ either operate its account in Chinese community more lively, or Chineses player come into here and post in Mandarin. If not, we could regard it as a symbol that Klei has abandoned the Chinese market. I don't think it's way too strict, Klei still have the spare to develop other new games. 我要求的很简单，像往常一样更新（2024的更新实在太水了），如果不能，就好好运营他们的b站账号，或者让中文玩家来论坛，使用中文发帖。如果都不能做到，我想我可以视其为科雷已经放弃了中国市场。我也不认为这个要求很严格，毕竟他们仍有余力开发新游戏。 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Tangerine Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 14 minutes ago, mima_ said: like i said they listened but the final is their decision, its not democracy, its their freedom as developers. demanding to be listened to each of every suggestion is impossible, while its sound super entitled to other users. them making change differently than what u expect is just the way it is. they didnt share the same view as you. and its frigin legal. its creativity freedom. Mima, I respect your opinion, but I don't think we're talking about the same thing. In the opinion of many Chinese players, many of the designs in Wendy's skill tree are incomprehensible, such as the use of dark petals to make petals in the first version. Meanwhile, Jason's opinion that Wendy is "too strong" caused his abilities to be widely questioned, that's why the designer was no longer trusted to be talented or sincere in his designs. I think that Wendy's skill tree is like a tree with rotting roots, no matter how much you prune it, it will eventually fall and die. If he had listened to the players early on, these controversies wouldn't have happened at all. My personal advice is that I sincerely hope he can play DST a bit more and improve his understanding of the characters, it would have cut down on a lot of unnecessary trouble. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 7 hours ago, Natsuki Bamboo said: 对于昨天JoeW在“论坛真的支持使用英文吗”的帖子里的回复我们提出了进一步的询问，我们想知道所谓允许纯中文帖子存在是指官方会去使用翻译软件去阅读这些帖子，还是只是允许纯中文帖子出现在论坛来彰显民主开放，但是由于阅读困难并不去理会里面写的是什么内容。如果纯中文贴在论坛无法得到同其他帖子一样的官方关注的话，允许我们发这些帖子的许诺又有什么意义呢？ 从提出这个问题到目前为止已经过去了超过24个小时，我们没有的得到任何的进一步回复，等到的只是毫无说明原因地关闭了这个帖子，请问这就是官方对此的答复吗--------逃避这个问题或是默认了会忽视这些帖子？ Cant read it. Its in Chinese. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 18 minutes ago, Danila6300 said: Под словами "поддерживать язык" вы имели ввиду может ли пользователь писать на том или ином языке также свободно или спокойно как и на английском? Ещё хочу сообщить что у меня переводчик может ошибаться.Например вместо игровой компании "Klei" он написал страну "Корея". 目前问题的关键就在于，哪怕是科雷内部都不能对“支持某种语言”有一个明确的定义，在科雷娱乐的哔哩哔哩账号发布的每月交流帖里，一个所有人都使用中文交流的社区里，运营人员跟我们强调“论坛一直支持中文”，但是没有进一步的解释说明，而论坛的管理员Joew说论坛没有直接支持其他语言的工作人员，并且建议翻译成英文来发帖，显然这两种说法有着明显的冲突，所以这就是为什么我一直想要一个简明且肯定的答复，我们当然无意违反获破坏论坛的规则，我们当然自愿的遵守规则，而前提是真的有明确的规则，我个人想要的仅此而已，我想弄明白关于“支持某种语言”的相关规则到底是什么样的，而解释权完全在科雷 语言间的壁垒固然客观存在，我的回复也不一定传达准确，但我感谢您的理解，我这里现在是中国农历正月初一的凌晨，祝您新年快乐 "The key issue at the moment is that even internally at Klei, there is no clear definition of what it means to 'support a certain language.' In a community where everyone communicates in Chinese, on Klei Entertainment's Bilibili account's monthly communication posts, the operators emphasize that 'the forum has always supported Chinese,' but there is no further explanation. Meanwhile, the forum administrator Joew mentioned that there are no staff members directly supporting other languages and suggested translating posts into English, which obviously presents a clear contradiction between the two statements. This is why I have been seeking a concise and definitive answer. We certainly have no intention of violating or disrupting the forum rules, and we are willing to adhere to the rules, provided that there are indeed clear rules in place. What I personally want is just that; I want to understand what the relevant rules regarding 'supporting a certain language' actually are, and the authority to explain this rests entirely with Klei. The barriers between languages certainly exist objectively, and my reply may not convey accuracy, but I appreciate your understanding. It is currently the early morning of the first day of the Chinese lunar new year for me, and I wish you a happy new year." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadratordo Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 7 minutes ago, Lee Sy said: Have explained in other topic, repeat here. what we are call for is simple: update the DST as before(too lazy in 2024), if not→ either operate its account in Chinese community more lively, or Chineses player come into here and post in Mandarin. If not, we could regard it as a symbol that Klei has abandoned the Chinese market. I don't think it's way too strict, Klei still have the spare to develop other new games. Yeah, this proves my point exactly on virtue of it being missed; I addressed those potential solutions in that post already. Not your fault for missing it though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDa_waw Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Cant read it. Its in Chinese. 看不懂，这是英文 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 Just now, DaDa_waw said: 看不懂，这是英文 Still in Chinese. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Tangerine Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 4 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Cant read it. Its in Chinese. Another example for what I have said, some people comment like this not for any communication but for the purpose of mocking and harrassing Chinese players Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDa_waw Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 1 minute ago, Jakepeng99 said: Still in Chinese. 还是英文 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 Just now, Blue Tangerine said: Another example for what I have said, some people comment like this not for any communication but for the purpose of locking and harrassing Chinese players Yet i did not use it to harrass or mock chinese players. The whole post is written in chinese and he translator did not translate. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewabacca Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 Folks, while this is all very interesting, would you mind moving it to a section of the forums that isn't specifically for discussing the beta? General Discussion or Suggestions & Feedback are right there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 Just now, Jakepeng99 said: Still in Chinese. 这还是英文，哥们，你要是想重复这种人机般的对话可以玩到明年过年 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 Still Chinese. You guys will need to translate to English if it wont work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sy Posted January 28, 2025 Share Posted January 28, 2025 1 minute ago, Quadratordo said: Yeah, this proves my point exactly on virtue of it being missed; I addressed those potential solutions in that post already. Not your fault for missing it though. I promise I have read all the article by JoeW, there's still difference with Klei's statement on bilibili. They can't use two standard. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163473-%E6%89%80%E4%BB%A5%E5%AE%98%E6%96%B9%E6%98%AF%E9%BB%98%E8%AE%A4%E4%BA%86%E7%BA%AF%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%9C%A8%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B%E5%B0%86%E6%97%A0%E6%B3%95%E5%BE%97%E5%88%B0%E5%90%8C%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87%E8%B4%B4%E5%90%8C%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B3%E6%B3%A8%E5%92%8C%E7%BB%B4%E6%8A%A4%E5%90%97/page/3/#findComment-1790582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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